God Does Not Have A God.....But Jesus Did Have A God?

Question

God is the ultimate judge and refuge for all, and He does not call upon nor pray to any others. But Jesus acknowledged that there was One whom he worshipped and to Whom he prayed when he said, "I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God." (John 20:17). He is also reported to have cried out while on the cross, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matt. 27:46). If Jesus were God, then couldn't this be read, "Myself, myself, why hast thou forsaken me?". Would that not be pure nonsense? When Jesus prayed the Lord's Prayer (Luke 11:2-4), was he praying to himself? When in the garden of Gethsemane he prayed, "O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless, not as I will but as thou wilt." (Matt. 26:36). Was Jesus praying to himself? That Jesus, of his own admission and by his own actions, acknowledged, worshipped, and prayed to another being as God is clear proof that Jesus himself is not God?

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Hello.EyeLovesJ.. is that Jesus in your eyes i see?

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Answer 1

That's simple to explain. God is the light, we are an extension of that light, including Jesus, thus Jesus...and us, are an extension of God. Think of if this way, God is a book, each one of us is a single page out of that book, each page is different, each page is full of unique sets of experiences, good and bad. Each page begins empty, it is written by a unique person (free will), and then returned to the book. The book is then evolving, learning, refining, expanding. We all claim that we return to the source (Father?), thus if you return to the source it means that you are part of it, that's where you begin, that's were you return to. Jesus is also from that source, thus Jesus is God, God is Jesus, God is Love and Light, and Love and Light is God, We are Love and Light, We are God.

Answer 2

Psalm 45:7 reads, "You love righteousness and hate wickedness;Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions."

This is a conversation between God the Word (now known as God the Son, Jesus Christ) and God the Father, when the Father annointed the Son as future Savior of the world. So yes, God DOES have a God.

Answer 3

>>>"My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matt. 27:46). If Jesus were God, then couldn't this be read, "Myself, myself, why hast thou forsaken me?". Would that not be pure nonsense?>>>

No. As He hung on the cross, Jesus said those words to call the crowd's attention to Psalm 23 -- which speaks of remaining faithful to God even in the face of extreme adversity.

The ancient Jews typically had all 150 psalms memorized. And it was common for them to recite the first verse of a given psalm in order to call attention to the ENTIRE psalm.

It's the same as saying "O say can you see" in order to call attention to the entire Star-Spangled Banner.

That's why Jesus said those words. He wasn't questioning God, and He certainly wasn't saying that He had forsaken Himself.

He was calling attention to the entire Psalm 23 -- and to its lesson about remaining faithful to God in difficult circumstances.

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Answer 4

Jesus was fully God and fully man. You have simply selected the passages that are emphasizing his humanity and rejecting passages that speak of his deity.

You conveniently omitted Hebrews 1:8 which reads, "But about the Son he says,
"Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever,
and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom."

God the father is calling Jesus God here.

Hope this answers your question.

Answer 5

You are correct, Jesus is God's Son,a separate person from God the Father.

I have a father but my father is not me.

Jesus said the Father is greater than him, he prays to His father.

God said during Jesus' baptism, "this is my son, to whom I am pleased...."

God send his (only-begotten) Son, he did not send himself.

His power is too great for earth to contain:

II Chronicles 2:5 & 6
And the house that I build is great: for great is our God above all Gods. But who is able to build him an house, seeing the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain him? who am I then, that I should build him an house, save only to burn sacrifice before him?

I Kings 8:27
But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded.

Answer 6

Good points...That's why trinity is just a myth.This proves that Jesus- peace be upon him- is a great prophet but not a God in any way.

Answer 7

Hello Talent.. :)

Jesus is our Saviour.. :)

Hosea 13

4 ¶ Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.

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Titus 3

4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,

5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

6 which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

7 that being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

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2 Peter 3

18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

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John 14

Jesus the Way to the Father

1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

8 ¶ Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

12 ¶ Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.



In Jesus Most Precious Name..
With Love..In Christ.. :)

Answer 8

your quotation from scripture is accurate but your reasoning is flawed,Jesus is the second Person of the Holy Trinity in human form,He came to serve and by His service was the height of humility, this humble service meant that He hid His divine status behind His humanity, and as a man subjected Himself to the law of Moses and to God the Father.

Answer 9

God is nither begotten nor begates

Answer 10

you're absolutely right .
some people do talk about trinity where as they do not really know what it is. trinity is the result of 3 centuries of struggeling between philosophers .