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"And one of the Scribes came, and having heard them REASONING TOGETHER, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the First Commandment of all?" Mark 12:29

"Master, which is the Great Commandment in the Law?" Matthew 22:36

Is not the First Commandment the beginning of REASON and the beginning of REASONING TOGETHER?

If Christians and Muslims were to try to understand that the Messiah or the Christ or the Masih is the force that draws them together in conflict, then Chrisians and Muslims need to be honest with themselves and with each other and understand too that the Messiah or the Christ or the Masih would have wanted them to REASON TOGETHER.

And if the First Commandment is "THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE", then TRUTH can only be One, and, at the end of the day Christians and Muslims will arrive at that One Truth if they reason together.

Can Christians and Muslims ever REASON TOGETHER to discover the Truth of the Messiah, the Christ, or the Masih???

2006-12-05 10:44:57 · 8 answers · asked by mythkiller-zuba 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
"That they said, we killed the Messiah Isa, the son of Mariam, the Apostle of Allah, but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for a surety they killed him not". Quran 4:157
Where in the Quran is there a Jesus except in the false translation?
We can rest assured that the Messiah was not crucified as is claimed in the Gospels, but that some form of deception or trick has left them in much confusion and doubt about what had really taken place.
With this assurance from the Quran and the fact that the Quran is the Final Message from Allah that confirms all Scripture that was sent before it, we can, just as assuredly, make a successful examination of the sayings of the Bible, in order to prove the non-crucifixion of the Messiah.
Christ may be in the Quran but certainly not Jesus who is not Isa.

2006-12-05 17:30:01 · update #1

Muslims who say they believe in Jesus do not know who is Jesus and may be too lazy to do what Muslims should before they form an opinion, and they should read the Quran and insist on an honest translation of Quran unlike the Yusuf Ali Biblical King James Version.

The Bible places serious doubts about the name of Jesus as applied to the Christ and Muslims will do well to examine the Bible before they blindly accept it as Revelation from Allah for the declaration of the fallacy of the crucifixion of Isa al Masih is a denial of Jesus and the Bible and Christianity as monotheistic, with a trinitheistic God of multiple mysteries.
The beginning of Reason is to find the Truth in the Scripture and the Quran's statement that denies the crucifixion can be used to extract the truth about the crucifixion in the Bible of two thieves bearing crosses of Jesus identity after the Christ was set free, and this does not see the Bible as true but as bowing under pressure from the Quran.

2006-12-05 17:42:52 · update #2

Islam is not a Church and Islam has no clergy so when you meet a Muslim cleric you meet a hypocrite who wants to live like the vampire off the blood of others.

Islam does not order Muslims to kill but in defending yourself.

Your clerics have abandoned the good deeds of the Quran and the brotherhood of man for Hadeeth that are haram an mistranslations of Quran that create confusion.

There are no Jews, no Christians and no Jesus in the purity of the Quran and the "clerics" and fake sheikhs refuse to address this fallacy only to lead men away from the Path of Allah.

Quran says that Isa and his mother are a Sign for mankind and if this Jesus controversey does not verify that they are a Sign then Muslims and Christians today are definitely astray and therefore can only be used as fuel for the Fire.

It is therefore only reasonable to reason together.

2006-12-05 17:55:00 · update #3

Christian and Muslim scholars corrupt the Quran with false translations making Isa into Jesus, but the Truth wont go away for your denial and this Christ/Messiah/Masih connection will not break out into a return of Jesus.

The Truth is here and now and Christians and Muslims who fear the Truth will never chase the Truth away.

2006-12-06 12:09:02 · update #4

8 answers

I would disagree. Christians follow the living God and follow Jesus with hope and faith. Muslims do not.

To ask either for compromise would be to ask them to confess what they believe is not true.

2006-12-05 10:52:07 · answer #1 · answered by Salvation is a gift, Eph 2:8-9 6 · 2 2

Funny how muslims say the Bible is corrupt, yet when they think they can use parts of it against Christianity suddenly the Bible is correct. Ever wonder why that is?
Don't be fooled by this guys twisted logic. He has sent me emails containing the following. Message: You got nothing in your heart because Christianity has nothing for the heart. Its all in the head and short-circuits from ear to mouth to nostrils and blows the mind.
You will vomit if you try to get to your heart with your god and son of god.
trinity accuses the mother and son of incest and the gospels give 2 fathers to the son, the father, Zeus and the holy ghost, the dove.
Matthew accuses the mother of adultery when it pulls Joseph out of a hat and claims that he found mary pregnant before he touched her.
at what age was mary when the holy ghost and the father, the two pedophiles, had sex with her?
begotten son is out of sex. was mary a prostitute in her childhod and was joseph also a pedophile?
the angel that spoke to joseph in his drunken dream was Zeus himself.
cant you now see how blind you are to fall for greek mythology as a religion

2006-12-05 21:16:38 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

How can you reason with someone who believes you are an infidel and should die? Muslims follow a false prophet. The Bible says to beware false prophets. They deny Jesus died and is The Christ. They said he was pretending to be a gardener. Where did that come from? Islam is lies. I don't follow The Great Deceiver.

2006-12-05 18:58:01 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

I have Muslim friends and I'm Christian. We do not fight over faith. That would be crazy! Faith is an individual thing that each person needs to find for themselves. Some people feel that there is no God. That is their choice. I don't agree with it, but who am I to say they are wrong. The very foundation of Christianity is to love everyone regardless of their beliefs. Didn't Christ say to "love thine enemy"?

2006-12-05 18:53:02 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Allah or Jesus?
By Rick Mathes
Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths who explained their belief systems. I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say.
The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When it was my turn I directed my question to the Imam and asked: Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?"
There was no disagreement with my statements and without hesitation he replied, "Non-believers!"
I responded, So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can go to heaven. Is that correct? The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, Yes.
I then stated, Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Pat Robertson or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to heaven! The Imam was speechless.
I continued, I also have problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask you a question-would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order to go to heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and wants you to be with me? You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.
Chuck Colson once told me something that has sustained me these 20 years of prison ministry. He said to me, Rick, remember that the truth will prevail. And it will!
Jesus is the truth, the way and the life!

2006-12-05 18:50:13 · answer #5 · answered by St. Mike 4 · 4 2

There's too much politics and traditions within the Muslim faith. While small Muslim communities have bridged the gap with Christians, on an international level, it would fail.
The Pope tried and was ignored.

2006-12-05 18:54:46 · answer #6 · answered by Fatima 6 · 2 1

Comeon if your gonna ask a question you should atleast know that Muslims believe in Jesus as the Messiah.

2006-12-05 18:47:29 · answer #7 · answered by Immortal Verses 5 · 2 2

Doesn't hurt to talk. But you don't reason with someone who's trying to kill you.
I Cr 13;8a
12-5-6

2006-12-05 18:47:38 · answer #8 · answered by ? 7 · 3 2

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