How many believe you only have to ask for forgiveness ONCE to get to heaven, even though you have sinned since then, or
How many believe you have to repeatedly ask for forgiveness after you have sinned?
What if 20 seconds ago you sinned, ie.. cursed? If your lord and saviour would take your life now and you didn't have a chance to repent that sin, would you go to heaven or hell?
Please, non-believers, do not answer, I already know your standpoint on this as I agree with you, so please only believers answer.
And also let me know what faith or denomination you are.
2006-12-05 07:03:02 · 13 answers · asked by geminitaurus 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Roy, I just want to know what others think and feel. No, I will not change my opinion but that doesn't mean I want to hear about others. Just curious.
2006-12-05 07:58:58 · update #1
I am a bible believer. I belong to a group of believers that is not in a denomination.
You have two very seperate issues your dealing with.
One is "are you forgiven" and the other is "are you in a good relationship with God"
Jesus's death and resurrection provides all the forgiveness that we need for a life of sin. We need to accept that Jesus was the son of God and that he died for us and was resurrected and that his blood has the atoning ability to cover our sinfulness. This gets you forgiven.
As far as daily behaviour etc....it directly affects your relationship with God and the holy spirit. To be in good standing in general with God one should be repentant, prayerful, and actively loving God and their neighbours. And following the bible.
One is about salvation....the other about sanctification or relationship with God.
2006-12-05 07:12:27 · answer #1 · answered by aarondarling 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The problem with your argument is that you have made forgiveness into a numbers game. It is not about how many times one has sinned and been forgiven or even being forgiven the once for a lifetime of sin. It is a matter of integrity in a relationship between persons and forgiveness provides that. That in itself cannot be measured or counted. Hence, the meaning of Christ's words to Peter. "You are to forgive your brother seventy times seven." Now do not make the mistake of interpreting these words as forgiveness being a numbers game. The number seven in Hebrew means "perfection". Peter believed it was a numbers game and he figured that seven would be the perfect amount of times. Yet, Jesus replies "seventy times seven" which means that forgiveness is to be given at all times (even the once) and is beyond human dictates and standards. From Jesus' answer forgiveness is not a matter of numbers. That my friend is the mistake of your argument. You have argued with the misunderstanding of Peter and not listened to nor understood the lessons Christ gave on this subject.
May the Lord bless and keep you. May He let the light of His face shine upon you.
God's and your beast of burden
Fr. john
2006-12-05 07:27:15 · answer #2 · answered by som 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You say that you already know what the unbelievers will say and that you agree with them. If this is true then your question is pointless. Why would you possibly want to know this if you already have it settled in your mind that you choose to believe contrary to the christian world view?
Asking forgiveness is only a part of that which is involved in salvation. It also means that one repent. This means to be in agreement with God concerning ones sinfulness and to turn away from sinful behavior. This does not mean that one becomes sinless but only that we have an advocate with the Father in Jesus Christ. I know for you the imperfection that Christians exhibit is proof positive that Christianity is a sham but without the subjective experience yourself of what it means to struggle as a Christian with people like yourself trying to pull them down you could not possibly understand the concept of what it means to ask forgiveness not once but on an ongoing basis which shows us our dependency on the Lord to do for us what we could never hope to do for ourselves. I doubt very seriously if you will understand this.
2006-12-05 07:41:35 · answer #3 · answered by messenger 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Evangelical Christian
This question seems to be misunderstand by many people. The fact is once you are saved you are always saved.
John 3:18 says, “Whoever believes in Jesus is saved, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son"
However if you think you are free to sin as you want, then you are decieved for if you are saved you will not desire your old lifestyle. Of course you will make mistakes, although God see's your heart and understands what you would do anyhow.
2006-12-05 07:25:56 · answer #4 · answered by ۞ JønaŦhan ۞ 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You really only have to ask forgiveness once, but it is a timing thing. A second or 2 too late and you are going to hell. That is what last rites are all about. and the final confession. A catholic that actually studied the bible and history.
2006-12-05 07:10:26 · answer #5 · answered by bocasbeachbum 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Catholic here.
I do not hold to the once saved always saved.
When I am in a state of Grace, (No un-forgiven sins) I will not go to hell. If I have an un-forgiven mortal sin, I will most likely go to hell.
Jesus gave us all of the tools for redemption.
That is why I became Catholic after 20 years of study.
Peace!
2006-12-05 07:07:20 · answer #6 · answered by C 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
This is *exactly* why I am a big proponent of the Sacrament of Confession and Absolution - and a place the Roman Communion calls "Purgatory".
It's what makes sense in a theological way, a sacramental way - and in keeping with the idea of presenting ourselves holy before a Holy God.
2006-12-05 07:07:19 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
I believe that I have to come to accept Jesus once. I also believe that as we grow in Christ, when we sin, The Holy Spirit, will convict us. He will grow us. and so yes while that may not be my trip to hell, I need to repent and see where I can change, or walk a little more straight. So that I can work and have more faith and have more Jesus.
hope I helped. Non Denominational, Non religion, Christian.
2006-12-05 07:08:05 · answer #8 · answered by 2ndchhapteracts 5 · 2⤊ 2⤋
I ask every day for God to forgive me for things maybe I didnt see I was doing or when I knew I did them...Everyday I ask..He said He forgive 70 times 7 and we should do the same..
2006-12-05 07:09:43 · answer #9 · answered by I give you the Glory Father ! 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Hey! Christians are sinners.\
Jesus already died for our sins..
Christianity as proclaimed by Jesus is doing...forget the darn little sin and the hell thing and go love each other.
2006-12-05 07:17:04 · answer #10 · answered by Roxton P 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋