Good one here...(and leaving the U.S. out of the fight...)
Germany...absolutely. In time, the Germans would have completely smashed Russia...the German technology on the verge of possible deployment, meant Russia's days would have been numbered.
The same question could apply to Britain vs. Germany, except that senario would have prolly been faster for the Germans.
Russia is as tough as nails on her soil. But wouldnt have been enough.
2006-12-05 05:36:29
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answered by Diadem 4
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Well thats a long discussion that we dont have time for but if say the course of things went the way they did and Russia and Germany feel apart as alliance early in the war and Germany still tried to invade Russia in the winter they would have lost the war you cant invade Russia in the winter like that it just doesn't work but say Germany and Russia stayed allied partners things would be alot different .... also if the U.S. hadn't gotten involved ask your self this would we be a world super power and police every one or would we just worry about our self's see this is a discussion that could go on for hours upon hours....don't for get about Japan where would they have fit in to they are (pearl harbor) one of the reasons we got as involved as we did so if we had a few hours and a few pages i could try to explain but all in all Russia would be alot more power full than they are now and who knows if the cold war would have even happened Cuba see WWII had some much influence on how the world has evolved that when you ask what if you never know what really would have happened
2006-12-05 05:37:25
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answered by Lab Runner 5
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Russia would have won. Russia had huge manpower resources and it's industry had been moved out of Luftwaffe range. Meanwhile the Russian industry proved far more able to produce huge amounts of T-34 tanks and fighters like the YAK-3 that were on par with the German fighters. Mean while the Germans were at the end of their logistic rope they simply could not supply the armies in Russia while the Russian supply lines were very short. The Germans had bit off more than they could chew Russia is too big.
2006-12-05 05:41:54
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answered by brian L 6
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I think it would have been a stalemate. Germany would never have been able to take the Soviet Union entirely. They couldn't deal with the winters and the Soviets never would have surrendered. The Germans were soundly defeated at Stalingrad, long before there was a Western front. That was the beginning of the end for the Nazi war machine, and it occured before a single US soldier was in Europe.
That said, Russia could never have counterattacked without the US. So without the US, the Germans would have just given up and went home without conquering the Soviet oil fields, which was their ultimate goal.
2006-12-05 05:50:43
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answered by Shane L 3
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Russia would have won. Even without aid from the United States and UK. The aid that Russia received was generous indeed but over the years, historians, professors, and enthusiastic anti-communists during the Cold Wars years have twisted the history. And now, the past and present generations of American and European populations believe that without American aid, Russia would have lost. It is stupidity, it is propanganda, and a big lie.
Hey, history speaks for itself: did American aid stop the Germans from marching within 19 miles of Moscow? Don't say the Russians were dumb. They fought to Berlin from Moscow! And they would have won with or without western aid.
2006-12-05 14:45:24
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answered by Descent 2
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Russia definitely repelled the German advance and were in the process of destroying Germany when it ended. No doubt, had the allies stood back and watched, Russia would have annihilated the Third Reich.
The US had a legitimate reason to be involved (not interfere) in the European theater. In fact they probably should have gotten involved earlier, many lives would have been saved.
One of your early answerer's is right on, the Russians lost millions of people during the German invasion.
2006-12-05 05:41:36
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answered by ggraves1724 7
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Russia would have prevailed against Germany though the war would have lasted at least 3-5 years extra.
By the time Germany reached Stalingrad, Russia was well-entrenched and Germany stretched to its limit. Historically, Hitler had to take Stalingrad to really win against Russia. He failed. And don't forget the Red Army's spectacular counter attacks and "encircling" tactics. Despite the Red Army's initial defeat, they learned their lesson quite fast.
Russia's military industry was moved far east of the Ural Mountains out of the reach of Germany. From there, the Russians produced a never-ending supply of tanks, arms and ammunition (Russian technology was inexpensive, efficient, and simple aiding greatly in rapid manufacturing).
For those who argue that Germany's superior technology would have guaranteed victory, remember that World War II weapons were all about quantity not quality. It did not matter how good a tank was but how many tanks like it were available. For example, German tanks were expensive, complicated and required several days to manufacture. The Russians turned out a record 40 tanks in weeks. Who can have a better massive army? You decide.
But without American strategic bombing, Germany would have lasted a lot longer. Unimpeded by American bomber campaigns, Germany would have efficiently produced more military hardware. But the realities of the war (quantity not quality) would have eventually prevailed.
Without U.S involvement, Germany would have fielded it full force of tanks, planes, and men costing Russia millions in additional lives lost.
But in the end, Russia would have prevailed. Remember, even if Germany had captured Moscow, Stalin would have just relocated and continued the fight from elsewhere. And Germany, despite it's superior technology, did not have a long range bomber capable of reaching and harming Russian industry beyond the Ural mountains.
Also, Germany's supply lines were stretched out thin. It took far too long for equipment to reach German forces. But the Russians had a much direct and shorter supply route to their forces.
The people factor must also be considered. Russian civilians were inspired and fought the invaders bravely with pitchforks and shovels while German civilians were lied to on radio that falsy reported that Germany was winning while actually it was quite different story.
And finally, the ultimate clash of titans: Hitler and Stalin. Stalin, despite his iron dictatorship, gave his outstanding generals "some" freedom of action. Hitler on the other hand had a complete monopoly on military decision making. So while Hitler's smart generals could only fume in mute rage, they had to comply with Hitler's final wishes. Unfortunately, Hitler was a big dummy when it came to military strategy and tactical operations. He was more qualified for giving big-mouth speeches than making important military decisions. Russia easily had the advantage of having a superb leader.
The massive military numbers of Russia, superior leadership, and revengeful patriotism are few of the things that would have eventually overcame Germany despite a longer war and much heavier death toll.
2006-12-05 06:26:25
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answered by BabyFace 2
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Russia. They played a much larger role in the victory as it turned out. Too big of a conquest for germany in the end plus they were defending their land.
2006-12-05 05:35:25
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answered by monsoon05 2
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Germany, Russia would have starved without the convoys. There also would have been no western front to worry about, Germany would have been able to focus all their considerable might against Russia.
2006-12-05 05:31:56
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answered by Dane 6
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The Soviet Union.
Superior German technology counted for bug ger all in the Russian winter. The Soviet Union managed to recover in the second year of fighting, thanks to officers learning from their mistakes and having greater room to manouvre. It moved its industrial heartland into Siberia, allowing for continuity for production.
The Germans were well on their way to loosing before D-Day, when they were defeated in Stalingrad, and later at Kursk.
2006-12-05 05:44:09
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answered by Mardy 4
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