Why is it acceptable to Christians...?

Question

..to say to atheists/agnostics : "Do you really think the Universe just created itself"

yet when asked : "Where did God come from.."

do they answer "He has always existed...he just does.."


Now, Im not looking for "who created god" debate.

I just want to know why Christians cannot accept logic arguments that they try to use against others, used against themselves and their beliefs.

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Right, so the general consensus is, that Christians have lost the logic argument so now rely on it's trump card "faith" - which essentially means...

"We can believe anything we like no matter how silly or ridiculous, basically because you cannot prove it to be false.."

Nice one thanks Christians...

I believe Christians come from planet BooBoo and have been transmitted here through the medium of dance to amuse reasoned and logical individuals.
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Answer 1

I just had one say that they couldn't justify a lie like santa (a scary old guy who is so good he knows if you are good or bad ) but she can't see the danger of teaching kids that God is an angry old man in the sky who is so mean and mighty that he could kill you on the spot and sentence you to all eternity in a flaming hell if you don't do exactly as he says for your whole life! I mean, am I the only one who sees this, I think - and then you come along. Thank you.

Personally, i'll stick with Santa. At least is get a nice gift and a chockie each year if I am good.

Peace!

Answer 2

Science is fallible. 700 years ago, science thought the world was flat. 400 years ago, science thought the Earth was the center of the universe. 70 years ago, science thought the atom was the smallest piece of particulate matter. 50 years ago science thought the electron was the smallest piece of particulate matter. 35 years ago, science thought the moon was covered in 3 feet of dust. Just because science has a new theory, doesn't make it correct. Science of late has been theorizing, then taking the evidence collected to back the theory - instead of taking the evidence and creating a theory (not all the time, but often). This is actually against the premises of empirical evidence.

So, currently, science has flawed logic.

You also don't understand the premise that God is not bound by the laws of the universe - He created it. Time and space do not restrict God. He is everywhere at everytime.

Answer 3

You know? I am *really* curious about that, too.

Personally, I would love to see more Christians *live* "The Word" instead of trying to force-feed it to me, as though sinning is erased by the plenary indulgence of getting me to join the Columbia Record Company of religions.

Yelling at me doesn't make me want to become a Christian. If it's supposed to be a religion of peace, why do I always feel like I and others are constantly under attack?

For Christians out there who want to save my soul? Show me, don't tell me. Live in a way that I can admire, prove to me God exists through your faith strong enough to create real miracles, and I will believe. Until then? Stop knocking on my door asking me if I've taken Jesus into my life. I did once, and was driven away by the insanity of the church I was indoctrinated into.

Answer 4

I accept the arguements when they are thrown at me.

I try to logically argue back as best I can

but it's like noughts and crosses when neither of you can win.

and it's true, if I could prove that there was a God, then everyone would believe in God! You know what I mean?

but to be honest with you, I try to stay out of these arguements as much as possible. I don't see why athiests and agnostics care about my religion, I don't see why some just want to argue it out with me trying to disprove there is a God same as I don't see the point in Christians telling others to believe in God when they clearly don't want to.

Answer 5

I think you're question is, "Why is it acceptable to SOME Christians..." I am a Chirstian myself, and even if I don't like what someone else believes, I would insult them. Whatever you believe, that's okay for you. I believe what I do based on my faith. I know for myself that God is real. I just wanted to say that not every Christian would say that to an atheist.If there needed to be a debate about the issue, it should be done in a respectful manner to both parties.

Answer 6

Christianity is a missionary faith. That is to say that Christians believe it is their duty to bring their God to the unenlightened masses. And this is what they do. I don't think that they would see their arguments as being "used against you" but as being used to help you.

The only reasonable argument that I can use when faced with the missionary attitude is "If you believe that God created me, then accept what he created just as you would accept an oak tree. If you try to change an oak tree into a pine tree, or if you try to change my belief, then you are working against your God, not for Him".

I see no reason for those who do not believe to try to persuade Christians that God does not exist. Why would you want to do this? Also, faith is a belief without physical evidence, you cannot possibly argue against this.

Answer 7

Interesting how you cannot accept that God existed in eternity, but can accept that the Universe just appeared from the nothingness with a Big bang , from nothing.

Who assembled living cells...?


A living cell contains over 60,000 proteins of 100 different configurations.

Chance assemblage is 1 in 104,478,296


Mastropaolo, Joseph, “Evolution Is Biologically Impossible,” Impact # 317 (El Cajon, CA: Institute For Creation Research, 1999) p.4

Answer 8

What is not to understand? They have a monopoly on truth based on a book written long ago by men who thought the world was flat and disease is caused by demons. Not only that, they believe it is a violation of their rights if they are denied the opportunity to use the coercive power of the state to shove their superstitious beliefs down every ones throat. We just have to marginalize them, which may mean an all out war against institutionalized stupidity.

Answer 9

The Bible actually says that God always was and always will be. It's not something that we can understand, it's just something we believe.

When Adam and Eve fell into sin, their minds were altered. They used to understand the "mysteries of God," but afterwards they couldn't because they were sinful. Because that happened, we all have sinful minds that cannot understand the mysteries of God.

I'm sorry you have encountered such hostile Christians. I, personally, try to avoid any kind of debate because it only results in hurt feelings on one side or the other.

Answer 10

Huge difference.

God, by definition, would have to be outside of space and time. Matter can't create itself becuase it is confined by the laws of physics, and the effects of time and space. There are very complicated reasons for all of this that I don't even understand, but I think the fact that Einstein believed in God should say something.

In other words, God wouldn't have to have a beginning because there is no such thing as a beginning when there is no time.