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Most of the fighters are black belts, representing many different martial arts. So where are the fabulous defensive moves when the aggressor lowers his head and charges? Instead of great defensive throws or agile maneuvering, 9 times out of 10 the defender gets tackled like in any junior high fight. What gives?

2006-12-05 01:33:21 · 7 answers · asked by whitedog65 2 in Sports Martial Arts

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I love people who think they can stop the shoot with a knee.... I have put so many cocky people on their asses because of that. Explain to me how you plan to knee me when i have both of your legs? The only defense against a shoot takedown is to either not be there... or sprawl out hard. Thats it kids... no secret weapons... Aikido does NOT work against a shoot fighter.

2006-12-05 04:34:55 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Actually, most of the fighters aren't black belts in the arts used in the UFC/Pride, and the early UFCs proved that a black belt is just that...a belt, not proof of proficiency. As far as the takedowns, lol, if any guy in the UFC charges in head first, he deserves to be KO'd. I've been doing mma for a year now and the takedowns are not nearly as simple or as easy to defend as you state. If you want to just run away from a guy trying to take you down, that's one thing. But if two guys are in a ring fighting, almost any offensive move will open them up for a takedown. The single or double leg takedowns you're talking about are defensible with sprawls, but if you're throwing punches good luck doing that in time, especially if you're in close range. All I can say is take a couple of mma classes if you can and just see for yourself.

2006-12-05 07:33:48 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Also because in addition to requiring an "unskilled" opponent, many of those "unskilled opponents" go for a different kind of tackle or grapple.

Not a trained wrestling takedown. And in many of those drills, even if they are not compliant, they are done without a set up, as is done in the ufc.

AND not everyone in the UFC trains in a system that has belts. Muai Thai for example, does not have belts.

2006-12-05 02:55:23 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

There are a number of moves to use against that, which is correct, but most techniques work only if you are balanced enough to use it. The people charging in aren't rookies, their timing for the charge is at a point where thier opponent is a little off balance and close enough so there is little in the way of reactionary gap.

I've used a few of the techniques you've mentioned against just such a charge with opponents who were somewhat skilled. It isn't as simple as it seems.

2006-12-05 01:48:43 · answer #4 · answered by Radagast97 6 · 0 1

Some fighters do have great take down defenses ie Chuck Lidell, BJ Penn. Its harder to defend againts than it looks. Like most sports watching is one thing doing its another. Have you ever had a 185 lb man running into you in an octagon?

2006-12-05 01:37:26 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

No, the guy who gets charged at usually sprawls to avoid the takedown...guys do get takedowns by lowering their head and charging, but thats usually countering a punch or kick...or even a fake uptop, then dive down for a takedown.....its all about who has good takedown defense, some guys have it (chuck liddell) and some dont.

2006-12-05 01:36:54 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Because many of those fabulous moves you are talking about require a cooperative or unskilled opponent.

BTW my favorite counter to a shot is a timed knee. Very fast, very fight stopping.

2006-12-05 01:36:23 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

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