Leviticus 18:22 states, more or less, that individuals “shall not lie with a man as one lies with a woman, that is an abomination." but also says in Exodus 31:15 “Whosoever shall work in the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death” and goes on to tell a story about a young child who was caught picking up sticks for a fire on Sunday and was stoned to death by the village (Numbers 15:32).
If work as simple as picking up sticks for a fire on the Sabbath is a justifiable excuse for killing someone, what about the act of driving to church, doing a load of laundry, or washing a couple of dishes? Should those too be dealt with in the same fashion?
Or if it is all just symbolic, why can the one now can be raised to a level of social outrage, while the other, that originally required the ultimate punishment, is almost completely ignored in its blatantly intended context?
Please no joker postings, I'm very serious in this question.
2006-12-05
00:05:48
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Sola Verbum Dei: How is picking up sticks for a fire any different then doing the laundry? Both are (or at least were) necessary everyday tasks.
2006-12-05
00:18:43 ·
update #1
johnny cee: I'm not sure I can believe that argument, because if Jesus did die for all sins the complete Old Testament would be null and void - yet it's teaching, stories, and rules are in heavy use as God's law even after not being reaffirmed anywhere in the New Testament. One simply cannot wipe thousands of lines clean with one passage from the newest version.
2006-12-05
00:22:16 ·
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kenny p: This was not a question about acceptance of any sin. Instead, I'm trying to figure out why it is ok to follow some rules as if they were the worst possible thing, while almost completely ignoring others as if they were never written. The punishment for working on the Sabbath are pretty clear, and repeated more often, then almost everything else in both the New and Old Testaments - yet those punishments are all but ignored while others are made more important then the couple of lines that were originally recorded.
2006-12-05
00:25:27 ·
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birdsflies: I'm not sure I understand. From what I'm reading from your post, we can do absolutely anything we want as long as we believe?
2006-12-05
00:29:47 ·
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Padders: Why are they not bound by those laws?
2006-12-05
00:31:27 ·
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C_O_R_E: What is a Spiritual Satanist?
2006-12-05
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because the act of sex apparently is a much more interesting subject.....than laundry
2006-12-05 00:12:39
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answered by sayasyoulike 4
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In the Old Testament, God's chosen people were supposed to do all necessary tasks before the Sabbath. That includes things like bringing in enough firewood.
(I always thought the Sabbath was on Saturday & that Christians made Sunday the day of rest.)
New Testament Christians weren't bound by those laws.
2006-12-05 08:29:53
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answered by Anonymous
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First off...you're talking Old Testament Vrs New Testament. The laws changed the day Jesus died for us.
Second....yes...we should not work on the Sabbath, however, we are to render "unto Caesar what is Caeser's"....this means different things, but one of them is that is your job requires you to work on the Sabbath day then you take another day off.
and thirdly...comparing homosexuality...or rather trying to justify by saying we "accept" other sins just isn't so. A sin is a sin. one doesn't make the other right. They both still sins.
If everyone in the world stole from their employer because everyone was doing it...it stoill wouldn't be right. We'd have a world full of thieves.....
So...refer to New Testament 1st Corinthians 6:9 New King James version and read about homosexuality.
The make your own choice.......
Have a Merry Christmas
2006-12-05 08:22:05
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answered by kenny p 7
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Friend WE are no longer under the law. Read Colosians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days. Now Romans 6:14-15 For sin shall not have dominion over you, for ye are not under the law but under grace, What then shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace, God forbid. Now one of the many verses I can use on this subject, I will use this one, Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the LAW, OH,OH, what did it say, For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
2006-12-05 08:24:02
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answered by birdsflies 7
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Well many want to pick that one sin like its the worse of them all, but its a sin just like being fat is. Then they go back to the Old Testement where God gave swift judgment on any sin that went aganist God. As far as working on the Sabbath. Jesus said Sabbath was made for man not man for Sabbath. God gave us that day to rest. Even Jesus worked on the Sabbath. He healed and he was picking corn on the Sabbath. Many people have to work on the Sabbath. The bible says if a man dont work he dont eat. Try reading the New Testement, cause in there you find grace.
2006-12-05 09:28:12
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answered by iwant_u2_wantme2000 6
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FIRST Biblical arguement-
THEN Secular arguement-
People often use Paul's letter to the Romans (7:4) to suggest that the Mosaic Law Covenant was destroyed when Jesus was Ressurected.
According to Matthew, Jesus does not exactly agree with that statement. Here Jesus is speaking:
MAT 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
So what was it that Paul meant in Romans when he said we were all "dead to the law"? One must only follow the rest of his statement to understand. Here it is from Romans:
ROM 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
We are bound, not by letter and law, but by our own spiritual covenant to Jesus; Jesus, who followed the law. So should we, according to Jesus teachings and early Christian writers, still obey the sabbath- and carry out punishment for failing to do so?
Who knows.
Here's what I can tell you from a secular standpoint:
1) GAY CHRISTIANS DON'T THINK BEING GAY IS EVIL.
2) CHRISTIANS WHO DON'T OBEY THE SABBATH DON'T JUDGE THEMSELVES WICKED, EITHER.
Looks to me like it isn't a question to ask God, but a question to ask man- and a simple one at that.
Q: WHY DO PEOPLE CONDEMN EACH OTHER?
A: Because they are weak in spirit, and cannot raise themselves any other way.
2006-12-05 08:36:36
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answered by B SIDE 6
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Leviticus, Numbers and other books stated many types of laws,
Gods Moral law (10 commandments) written with his finger in stone, which is still applicable, Yes including the Sabbath.
Sanitary laws - what animals not to eat, wash yourself after you touch a dead body, etc. This is still applicable as its God's wisdom has not changed either.
Civil laws - an eye for an eye, and everywhere it says to stone (execute somebody). Is not applicable anymore as we are not under a theocracy anymore.
Ceremonial Laws - services in the sanctuary, sacrificial lamb, special holidays, were all the shadow of the Christ to come. We do not need them anymore as Jesus came and died for us.
2006-12-05 08:22:23
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answered by veggie 3
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You should check out what the New Testament has to say about the sabbath and about homosexuality.
The Mosaic law was written for a people, the Jews, living under a theocracy. We as Christians are not under this law.
2006-12-05 08:11:57
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answered by David S 5
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good point, working on Sunday is prohibited by scripture as it it the Lord`s day in which we must refrain from paid labour and worship as His people.
now what we are talking about here is working for gain or profit and not those essential tasks vital to life for example,Medical and emergency services and such, these are not for profit making and do not contravene the Sabbath, there is a passage in the Gospel in which Jesus said about the Apostles picking ears of corn on the Sabbath and He did not rebuke the Apostles but sided with them.
2006-12-05 08:15:55
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answered by Sentinel 7
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NT Christians are not bound by the 4th commandment. Romans 7;4.
I Cr 13;8a 12-5-6
2006-12-05 08:09:33
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answered by ? 7
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I like Johnny Cree's answer... it supposedly shows that even the Commandments were't binding to Christians, but that they can condemn whatever or whoever they wish as they can make up their own rules....
Christ never enumerated which rules could be broken and which not; it's all up to interpretation by whoever wishes to interpret.
2006-12-05 08:15:44
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answered by Deirdre H 7
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