Have you been affected?

Question

I have noticed that this immigration forum only has around 50 people that keep answering each other, some are pro-immigration and some are not.
The people that are against immigration always argue in terms of economic reasons. But have any of you guys seriously been affected by illegal immigration, I don't want the "they raise my taxes" because that is crap taxes go up regardless. Have any of you been directly affected by the presence of illegals here?
Remember that souther people had the same arguments before the civil war concerning slaves and wheather they should be freed, then again in the 1960s people in the south did not want to end segregation because besides the fact that they saw blacks as inferior, they believed that blacks would cause economic turmoil so you see economic reasons are not the whole problem as you people like to put it.

Answer 1

Hmmm, I found all the answers very interesting.....How illegals would ultimately affect them with a "trickle down" affect, hurting our country economically, to that I say RUBBISH!

If you look at the over all population in this country, which is mainly of white Americans, which consists up 80% of all the population (239.9 million whites), I think perhaps, white people on welfare would have a much greater affect than any illegal....I am not singling out whites, I am just using them as example, being they are the largest population, compared to other ethnicity's....

There are 44.2 million Hispanics, legal and citizens and there are 38.3 million African Americans....And supposedly 20 million undocumented workers......Sorry the numbers just don't ADD UP, enough to make any real damage, not even a "trickle" to our economy......If people want to complain about how they will be affected, economically, they should really look at the numbers of this war and what kind of affect that will have on our children and grandchildren.....We are spending 3 billion a day, on this war, chew on that for a while....

Answer 2

Yes I have been and everyone I know has been affected by illegal immigration. Our schools are going broke and are overcrowded as it is, why should Americans pay for children of another country??? Here's a break down of the costs for education from illegal immigration JUST for the state of California for ONE year.

The total K-12 school expenditure for illegal immigrants costs the states $7.4 billion annually-- enough to buy a computer for every junior high student nationwide.


In California, the $2.2 billion spent on the education of the children of illegal immigrants for one year could:
Pay the salaries of 41, 764 teachers, or 14 percent of California's teachers.
Pay for California's class sizes to remain capped at 20 students for a year, with $300 million to spare.
Buy books, computers, and other instructional equipment for 346, 689 classrooms, 79 percent of all classrooms in California.
Fully fund California 's free lunch program for almost two years.

Guess who pays for the schools?? I could be here all day giving you examples of how Americans are affected by illegal immigration, but I doubt you would comprehend it.

Answer 3

The illegals in Houston work really hard but they have their own sort of network to avoid the authorities. I have a really good friend whose son was hit while driving his new Jeep. The woman (it was her fault) claimed she had insurance and showed a license from Colorado. They let her leave the scene. The car had no insurance and the license was fake. My friend go stuck paying $5,000 in damages because he had made the payment on his insurance late that month and they would not pay his claim.

I think there should be an amnesty and these folks should pay taxes and have a chance to abide by the law. If they do not abide by the law then they can be deported.

The Police would do nothing and they knew the owner of the car in Colorado and the girl were both illegal but soon after the accident both of them disappeared.

Answer 4

Yes,I am getting tired of being called a stupid american because I don't speak Spanish. I am tired of trying to order stuff at places and they don't know what I am talking about. I am tired of having to outline on every phone call to customer service that I speak English. I am tired of seeing them get away with living twenty people in a two bedroom apartment when I had to move from my two bedroom when I had a boy and a girl. I am tired of seeing them get out of the car and there are about ten of them but I got a ticket for someone in the back seat without a seatbelt.

Besides that, taxes do affect you and everyone else more than just them raising every year.

If your city is 99% legal citizens and only 1% illegals, that is 1 dollar of every 100 you spend in taxes. I spend about 8000 a year on taxes and 500 on property taxes. That means 805 to illegals. NO I don't think I like that very much--how about you?

Answer 5

We are all affected especially through taxes. For example our property taxes are directly effected by the school system which is over run with children of parents who aren't here legally we all have to pay for that. And medical costs are effected as well. Especially when many illegals do not have the money to pay for their medical treatment someone has to make up for the money lost for treatment and services leaving the rest of us to foot the bill.

Answer 6

Yes illegal aliens have affected me in many ways. Like you put it, the economic impact doesn't really bother me. It just that people, including illegal aliens seem to expect everything on a silver platter. Hey I've busted my butt to get where I am and yes I do come from a very poor family. They are breaking our laws when they enter illegally and I still stand behind my argument that you can't compare this with speeding.

Answer 7

I am a mexican law student currently living in Mexico, but I studied a couple of years in the United States, let me tell you that the point of view of Mexicans here, and mostly correct is that the country (Mexico) is like it is due to USA intervention, you can not tell me it is a lie because you don not live here, partly the mexican economy is falling because the American government has its ways of threatening the Mexican government from doing something, that is why Hugo Chavez in Venezuela is standing up and now the US thinks he is a threat.
This is an example:
There is a MEXICAN soda company called PASCUAL back in the 80's it was popular, but for some reason that company is taxed twice as much as Coca-Cola who knows why. The Mexican company only hires Mexican people who would otherwise go to the USA, while Coca- cola has been hiring a bunch of chinese and indian people that take jobs away from Mexicans so eventually they have to go to the USA to survive, and did I mention that Coca-Cola pays taxes, just not as much as PASCUAL.

Answer 8

I am pro-immigration. I am anti- ILLEGAL immigration. I myself am an immigrant. I was born in Korea and adopted by an American family. But I am here LEGALLY. I came here the RIGHT way, whereas many of the Mexicans are coming here the WRONG way. I eventually became a citizen and pay my taxes. The illegals rarely become citizens, and never pay taxes, even though they are a burden on tax-payer funded programs like Medicare/Medicaid and the education system.

Tax-payer funded programs are meant for the citizens of this country, not citizens of another country. You don't see us paying for the health care of all the Canadians that come here. You don't see us paying for the health care of all the Asians that come here. The reason you see us paying for the health care of Native Americans is because DUH, they were here FIRST, not to mention we owe it to them for stealing their land. But the fact is, we are paying for the health care of most the Mexicans that come here. That is intrinsically unfair to the citizens of other countries that don't get their health care paid for by our government (not to mention quite expensive). And while I understand your arguments about freeing the slaves in the 1860's and the end of segregation in the 1960's, at the end of the Civil War, all the blacks were granted citizenship, and in the 1960's, all the blacks were already citizens, but being denied certain citizen privileges. The difference is that most of the Mexicans are NOT citizens, and therefore are not entitled to any citizen privileges.

Answer 9

Have you been to a hospital lately? Was it inexpensive? No? Do you know why?
12 million people getting "free" healthcare, thats why. We are paying for it. Emergency rooms in the border states are closing their doors.
28% of our prison population is criminal migrants. We have a flood of crystal meth in our country, and it is destroying our nation. Do you know where it comes from? Mexico. Do you know who brings it? Illegals.
Let me also ask you, do you know any country that has not regulated it's immigration policy and survived?
Ever hear of Rome?
Our resources are not unlimited, and we cannot absorb the entire 3rd world. True?

And with each year our politicians will continue to let more illegals vote in our elections, diluting the votes of Americans be people who do not consider themselves American at all. Is that positive? Will that make America better?

Answer 10

illegals as you call them choose unorthodox methods to solve their problems possibly out of desperation.

but unfortunately like so many other social mechanisms in any country these things become habit regardless of need or lack of it. it's like when a cat introduces its offspring to the taste of blood; it becomes part of life and in the case of unorthodox methods may not necessarily be a good thing.

contempt for the host country is exhibited with these unorthodox methods and eventually the snowball syndrome that inevitably gets out of hand!

now in answer to your question ....your bloody well right i am affected by illegals and how they mess with my homeland's mechanisms. it usually trickles down to me in some form of dollars and cents or for that matter my freedom and discretion. it makes my blood boil that visitors/illegals from other countries can enter my country and i end up being the visitor in my own country. nuf said!