Will California ever have so many Mexicans that it will secede from the Union and join Mexico?

Answer 1

MEChA and the La Raza movement teach that
Colorado, California, Arizona, Texas, Utah,
New Mexico, Oregon and parts of Washington State
make up an area known as "Aztlan" --
a fictional ancestral homeland of the Aztecs
before Europeans arrived in North America.
As such, it belongs to the followers of MEChA.
These are all areas
America should surrender to "La Raza"
once enough immigrants, legal or illegal,
enter to claim a majority, as in Los Angeles.
The current borders of the United States
will simply be extinguished.

This plan is what is referred to as the "Reconquista"
or reconquest, of the Western U.S.(Secession)

But it won't end with territorial occupation and secession.
The final plan for the La Raza movement
includes the ethnic cleansing
of Americans of European, African, and Asian descent
out of "Aztlan."

As Miguel Perez
of Cal State-Northridge's MEChA chapter
has been quoted as saying:
"The ultimate ideology is the liberation of Aztlan.
Communism would be closest [to it].
Once Aztlan is established,
ethnic cleansing would commence:
Non-Chicanos would have to be expelled --
opposition groups would be quashed
because you have to keep power."
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=13863

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25337

Art Olivier is a Libertarian running for Governor in California, and recently reported the following:

“My campaign headquarters
received a package in the mail today
from an unknown sender,
where the return address should be,
was a sticker of the Mexican flag.
Inside was a Mexican flag
and three pages of propaganda.
The first page said
the whites will soon go back to Europe,
the blacks must go back to Africa
and scribbled on the bottom was ‘and f*** Asians too.
We will take our land back through RECONQUISTA!’

The next two pages are El Plan de Aztlan.
http://latino.sscnet.ucla.edu/research/docs/struggle/aztlan.htm
It starts off ‘be warned Gringos’
and goes into how the La Raza de Bronze
(The Brown Race)
will drive out the exploiters
and declares independence of their mestizo nation.
Under their economy goals is
‘Land and realty ownership will be acquired
by the community for the people’s welfare.’
http://www.petsgardenblog.com/2006/07/10/la-raza/

This movement is without a doubt racist and communist.
Is this the same La Raza
that Bill Clinton & Karl Rove spoke at?”
Yes It Is

http://www.gamblin.net/webbackups/www.constitution.org/cs_separ.htm
La Voz de Aztlan —
Separatist movement
that seeks a reconquista (reconquest)
by chicanos (ethnic hispanics of Aztec descent)
of the Southwestern United States
and creation of a new nation of Aztlan
(legendary ancient homeland).

United People's Party
(Partido Nacional La Raza Unida) —
Many of them seek to separate the part of the U.S.
taken from Mexico from the U.S.
and make it an independent Hispanic nation called Aztlan.

If you wanted to overthrow
the governments of the Southwestern states,
how would you go about it?
You couldn’t face the might of the US military.
Wouldn’t it be better to simply usurp the power
by gaining a majority of voters,
mobilizing them to vote a certain way,
and seize power through the polls?
Perhaps driving out the gringos
and the blacks and the Asians while you are at it?

What steps might you take toward this goal?
--Certainly you would want unfettered immigration
from South America.
--You would want Border Patrol enforcement lax.
--You would want law enforcement officers to be constrained from identifying illegals.
--You would want illegals to gain the right to vote;
giving them legitimate ID (such as a drivers’ license)
would be a big step
toward bypassing immigration and citizenship rules.
--You would want to educate
(and indoctrinate through campus organizations)
illegals to run for office,
and offering them tuition breaks
would assist them in this task.
--You would want to provide social services
to both entice illegals and allow them to survive
while building up your census data,
and block any measures (like Proposition 187)
which would seek to put limits on these.
--You would want to keep
the bulk of Spanish-speaking immigrants
locked into cultural barrios,
trapped by a failure to assimilate,
language limitations, and poverty
who will thus be more amenable to persuasion
and manipulation with promises of golden rewards.

Apologists within and without the Hispanic community
say that the ''Plan'' is merely lyric poetry,
that the group like so many outgrew the radical ‘60s roots.
Yet a simple survey
of their contemporary writings and rhetoric
show a consistent support
for the notion of Hispanic dominance of the Southwest.
If these are historical vestiges long cast aside,
why are they still found in the statements of purpose
and philosophy of MEChA?

Does Cruz Bustamante still advocate
the secession of the Southwest from the United States?
His refusal to repudiate MEChA or the concept of Aztlan
is disturbing at the least.
If he is not an active participant
in a plan to overwhelm the culture
and political landscape of the Southwest,
his support of the very things
that would further than plan must be noted.
http://www.chronwatch.com/featured/contentDisplay.asp?aid=4095

But the threat of secession is not merely from groups
that might be considered on the fringe,
Noting the declarations of Mexican leaders,
up to the highest office.

Former Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo
said in a 1997 speech in Chicago
to the "National Council of La Raza,
a Hispanic advocacy group, that he
"proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation
extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders
and that Mexican migrants are an important –
a very important – part of this."

Zedillo said that because of this fact
his government proposed a constitutional amendment
that allows Mexican citizens to hold dual citizenship.
That the objective
is to enable Mexicans in the United States
to vote in the interest of Mexico.

Ultimately, many Mexicans hope for a "reconquista,"
a reconquest of territory lost
when Mexico signed
the 1848 Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo
at the end of the Mexican-American War.
http://www.mnforsustain.org/aztlan_aztlan_dream_to_retake_the_south_us.htm

Founded in the late 1960s,
MEChA has spent the last three decades
indoctrinating Latino students on American campuses
in the ideology of reconquista (reconquest).
MEChA charges that Aztlan was unjustly seized
by the United States
following the Mexican-American War.
Now MEChA wants this territory given back
to its alleged rightful owners:
the people and government of Mexico.

As a matter of fact,
the American Southwest was not,
as MEChA claims,
“stolen” from Mexico.
Following the Mexican-American War,
the government of Mexico legally ceded this territory
to the United States
(by the Treaty of Guadalupe de Hidalgo, 1848).
Nor has there ever been any place called “Aztlan”
on American soil,
much less a “Nation of Aztlan” Anywhere On The Planet
The Nation of Atzlan Was Invented 30 years ago
by radical Latino activists,
and might as well be Atlantis

But MEChA is not a group to let facts get in the way.
There are today more than 300 MEChA unions
in existence, with more than 100 in California alone.
While the group is concentrated in the Southwest
and along the West Coast,
it can also be found farther East:
It’s got chapters at MIT,
Yale, Cornell, George Washington University,
and Brown, among other East Coast universities.
On the West Coast,
where MEChA is to be found
in nearly every institution of higher education,
the movement is spreading so quickly
that it has set its sights on the public school system,
establishing high school chapters
and encouraging its young supporters to participate
in its numerous (and sometimes violent)
protests and marches.

The revolution that MEChA plans
for the American Southwest is to be a peaceful one —
at least for the time being.
By supporting continued high levels
of Mexican immigration to the United States,
MEChA hopes to achieve by sheer weight of numbers
what the U.S. government long ago
achieved by force of arms:
the re-partition of the American Southwest.
To this end,
MEChA endorses a cocktail of pro-immigration policies.
These include
--Open borders,
--Governmental benefits
(including the right to vote and obtain drivers licenses)
for non-citizens,
--amnesty for illegal aliens,
--dual citizenship,
--state recognition of Spanish as an official language,
--and racial set-asides in education and corporate hiring.

MEChA is hardly alone in promoting these policies.
The National Council of La Raza
and the Mexican-American Legal Defense and Education Fund
(MALDEF),
two of the better known Latino advocacy groups,
also support them
(as does Mexican President Vicente Fox).
What distinguishes MEChA
from its more mainstream counterparts, however,
is its explicit and virulent calls for reconquest.
While organizations like La Raza and MALDEF
may harbor irredentist dreams,
MEChA has made the reconquest
of the American Southwest
the central platform of its program.

Answer 2

I will guarantee you 100% that it will not for three reasons:

1. The United States government wouldn't allow it. The Mexican military vs. the US Military is such a gigantic mismatch, I doubt Mexico would even want to risk thinking about annexing California. All Washington DC would do is pull back all the troops from Iraq, or just call up more National Guards, and put a smack-down on Mexico if they tried to forcibly take California.

2. California would never vote to do such a thing, even as the Mexican population there increases. The reason is that there are enough people of other races, mainly Asians and Native Americans, that would of course reject any initiative to join Mexico, or even secede from the US to be an independent nation. What people don't realize is that Mexicans will NEVER be a majority in California, no matter how many of them come over here. That's because of reason #3.

3. Not all Latinos are Mexican. Most of my Latino friends when I lived in SoCal weren't Mexican, but from places like El Salvador, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Peru, Argentina and Colombia. There are more than enough non-Mexican Latinos in California that would vote against joining Mexico. And also remember, most of the Mexicans are illegal, and therefore can NOT vote, so they would not make even a 25% voting block, nevermind the 50.1% they would need to even get such an initiative on the ballot. However, a much greater percentage of the non-Mexican Latinos ARE CITIZENS or otherwise here LEGALLY, and they would have a much greater say in such things.

Answer 3

I know that is only a provocation. As DaLady said, why would they want to do that? With or without Mexicans, California is a mighty economy on its own. As a matter of fact, I've heard (can't vouch for it though) that if California were an independent country, it would be the worlds 7th economy. Now, why the heck would they want be joined with Mexico or any other country (including the other 49 states) for? All they do is drag other's asses.

Answer 4

Time will come that if Mexicans dominate California, there can be a revolution that will be wage against the Union for secession of California as a separate country or be returned as a province of Mexico. Anything can happen in this world.

Answer 5

Well, California was a province of Mexico wayyyy back then.
When Mexico becomes a super power maybe. But until then the border will be there.

Answer 6

Even if there were more than half Mexicans why would they want to have Calif part of Mexico?They came here to leave Mexico. If it was part it would end up just like Mexico. lol Nothing would work just like Mexico.

Answer 7

I assume that you are A NATIVE AMERICAN and have been in the US from birth as were your parents; TRUE?

I am from FOUR generations of AMERICANS and my GGF designed many of the buildings in San Francisco, but I am NOT a WASP.

Do you cut your own grass? Wash your own car or pick the produce that you eat?

The Mexicans bring a labor force to the United States becaue we are TOO PROUD or self-entitled to do it ourselves.

They come to the US because their life SUCKS in their Country, is filled with corruption and they simply want a better life for themselves. I just can't find anything wrong with that.

Sure they abuse the SYSTEM but how many AMERICANS have been found GUILTY of welfare fraud? Trailer TRASH is trailer trash and it doesn't matter a RAT's PATUTE what their nationalality is, "comprede"?

As you may have gathered, your question annoyed me because it has NO PLACE HERE!

If you have lost out on a job to a "Mexican" then they were probably more qualified than you were, so get a grip.

HAH, I don't suppose I am going to get points on this one.

Jacques

Answer 8

I don't see that happening. After all, that is why so many Mexicans come here-to escape the bitter poverty and social injustice of their country. Besides, the citizens of the United States would never let it go that far.

Answer 9

The South tried that in 1862... with an army that could almost match the North's. What makes you think illegals with machetes and ragtag Mexican conscripts could defeat the most powerful military in the history of the world?

Don't be such an idiot.

Answer 10

How many are left down there. Must be a nicer place in mexico. A lot of them are in jails in the U.S.
*"— "More than neighbors" —
"Mexico and the United States are more than neighbors. We are partners in building a safer, more democratic and more prosperous hemisphere."
The above quote was taken from link below. It is something President Bush said. Hope everyone loves what is happening to our country. Now the Democrats and illegals will get what they wanted.
NAFTA was supposed to keep mexicans home in the land they love by bringing the american way of life there

Answer 11

I really don't think so, but one never knows.

But a more likely out come than that would be for Mexico to be come part of the US