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i have read most of both but plz help me

2006-12-04 11:22:44 · 8 answers · asked by peachus 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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The Bible is a collection of writings by many different authors. The Qur'an is a dictation. The speaker in the Qur'an - in the first person - is God talking directly to man. In the Bible you have many men writing about God and you have in some places the word of God speaking to men and still in other places you have some men simply writing about history.

The Bible consists of 66 small books. About 18 of them begin by saying: This is the revelation God gave to so and so… The rest make no claim as to their origin. You have for example the beginning of the book of Jonah which begins by saying: The word of the Lord came to Jonah the son of Elmitaeh saying… quote and then it continues for two or three pages.

If you compare that to one of the four accounts of the life of Jesus, Luke begins by saying: "many people have written about this man, it seems fitting for me to do so too". That is all… no claim of saying " these words were given to me by God here they are for you it is a revelation", there is no mention of this.

The Bible does not contain self-reference, that is, the word 'Bible' is not in the Bible. Nowhere does the Bible talk about itself. Some scriptures are sometimes pointed to in the Bible, say: Here where it talks about itself, but we have to look closely. 2nd Timothy 3:16 is the favourite which reads: "All scripture is inspired of God" and there are those who would say, here is where the Bible it talks about itself, it says it is inspired of God, all of it.

But if you read the whole sentence, you read that this was a letter wrote by Paul to Timothy and the entire sentence says to Timothy: "Since you were a young man you have studied the holy scriptures, all scriptures inspired by God" and so on…
When Timothy was a young man the New Testament did not exist, the only thing that stems he was talking about are scriptures - which are only a portion of the Bible - from before that time. It could not have meant the whole Bible.

It is an extreme position held only by some Christian groups that the Bible - in its entirety - cover to cover is the revealed word of God in every word, but they do a clever thing when they mention this, or make this claim. They will say that the Bible in its entirety is the word of God; inerrant (no mistakes) in the original writings.

So if you go to the Bible and point out some mistakes that are in it you are going to be told: Those mistakes were not there in the original manuscript, they have crept in so that we see them there today. They are going on problem in that position.

There is a verse in the Bible Isaiah 40:8 which in fact is so well known that some Bibles printed it on the inside front cover as an introduction and it says : " The grass weathers, the flower fades, but the word of our God stands forever". Here is a claim in the Bible that the word of God will stand forever, it will not be corrupted, it won't be lost.

So if today you find a mistake in the Bible you have two choices. Either that promise was false that when God said my word wont fade away, he was mistaken, or the portion which has the mistake in it was not a part of the word of God in the first place, because the promise was that it would be safeguarded, it would not be corrupted.

I have suggested many times that there are mistakes in the Bible and the accusation comes back very quickly: Show me one. Well there are hundreds. If you want to be specific I can mention few. You have for example at 2nd Samuel 10:18 a description of a war fought by David saying that he killed 7000 men and that he also killed 40000 men on horsebacks. In 1st Chronicles 19 it mentions the same episode saying that he killed 70000 men and the 40000 men were not on horsebacks, they were on foot.

The point be what is the difference between the pedestrian and not is very fundamental. Matthew 27:5 says that Judas Iscariot when he died he hung himself. Acts 1 says that 'no' he jumped off a cliff head first. If you study Logic very soon you will come in your course to what they call an "undecidable propositions" or "meaningless sentences" or statements that cannot be decided because there is no contextual false.

One of the classic examples sited is something called the Effeminites paradox. This man was Cretan and he said "Cretans always lie", now was that statement true or false? If he was a Cretan and he says that they always lie is he lying? If he is not lying then he is telling the truth then the Cretans don't always lie! You see it cannot be true and it cannot be false, the statement turns back on itself. It is like saying "What I am telling you right now is a lie" would you believe that or not? You see the statement has no true content. It cannot be true and it cannot be false. If it is true it is always false. If it is false it is also true.

Well in the Bible at Titus 1:12 the writer is Paul and he is talking about the Cretans. He says that one of their own men - a prophet - said "Cretans always lie" and he says that what this man says is true. It is a small mistake, but the point is that it is a human mistake, you don't find that if you carefully examine the true content of that statement. It cannot be a true statement.

Now I come back to the Qur'an, and as I mentioned the speaker in the Qur'an- in the first person - is God. The book claims throughout that it is the word of God. It names itself 70 times as the Qur'an. It talks about its own contents. It has self-reference.

The Qur'an states in the first Sura after Fatiha that "This is the book, there is no doubt in it, it is a guidance for those who are conscious of God" and so on and so on… It begins that way and continues that way stressing that. And there is one very amazing statement in the Qur'an when you come to the fourth Sura 82nd Ayah which says to those who say Qur'an is something else than the word of God.

It challenges them saying: "Have they not considered the Qur'an, if it came from someone other than God they will find in it many mistakes". Some of you are students, would you dare to hand in a paper after you completed a research work or something at the bottom you put down there "You wont find mistakes in this". Would you dare to challenge your professor that way?. Well the Qur'an does that.

It is telling: If you really think you know where this came from then starts looking for mistakes because you wont find any.
Another interesting thing the Qur'an does is that it quotes all its critics. There has never - in hundreds of years - ever been some suggestion as to where that book came from but that the Qur'an does not already mention that objection and reply to it.

Many times you will find the Ayah saying something like: Do they say such and such and so, say to them such and such and so. In every case there is a reply. More than that the Qur'an claims that the evidence of its origin is in itself, and that if you look at this book you will be convinced.

So the difference in Christianity and Islam comes down to a difference of authority and appeal to authority. The Christian wants to appeal to the Bible and the Muslim wants to appeal to the Qur'an. You can not stop by saying: This is true because my book say it is, and somebody else would say something else is true because my book says differently, you cannot stop at that point, and the Qur'an does not. The Christians may point to some words that it is recorded Jesus said and say this proves my point.

But the Muslim does not simply open his book and say:No, no the Qur'an says this, because the Qur'an does not simply deny something the Bible says and say something else instead. The Qur'an takes the form of a rebuttal; it is a guidance as the opening says (Huda lil mutakeen). So that for every suggestion that the Christian may say: My Bible says such and such, the Qur'an will not simply say: No that is not true, it will say: Do they say such and such then ask them such and such.

You have for example the Ayah that compares Jesus and Adam. There are those who may say that Jesus must have been God (Son of God) because he had no father. He had a woman who was his mother, but there was no human father. It was God that gave him life, so he must have been God's son.

The Qur'an reminds the Christian in one short sentence to remember Adam - who was his father ? and in fact, who was his mother ? He did not have a father either and in fact he did not have a mother, but what does that make him? So that the likeness of Adam is the likeness of Jesus, they were nothing and then they became something; that they worship God.

So that the Qur'an does not demand belief - the Qur'an invites belief, and here is the fundamental difference. It is not simply delivered as: Here is what you are to believe, but throughout the Qur'an the statements are always: Have you O man thought of such and such, have you considered so and so. It is always an invitation for you to look at the evidence; now what do you believe ?

The citation of the Bible very often takes the form of what is called in Argumentation: Special Pleading. Special Pleading is when implications are not consistent. When you take something and you say: Well that must mean this, but you don't use the same argument to apply it to something else.

To give an example, I have seen it in publications many times, stating that Jesus must have been God because he worked miracles. In other hand we know very well that there is no miracle ever worked by Jesus that is not also recorded in the Old Testament as worked by one of the prophets. You had amongst others, Elijah, who is reported to have cured the leper, raise the dead boy to life and to have multiplied bread for the people to eat - three of the most favorite miracles cited by Jesus.

If the miracles worked by Jesus proved he was God, why don't they prove Elijah was God ? This is Special Pleading, if you see what I mean. The implications are not consistent. If this implies that then in that case it must also imply the same thing.

We have those who would say Jesus was God because he was taken up in the heaven. But the Bible also says that a certain Einah did not die he was taken up into the heaven by God. Whether it is true or not, who knows, but the point is if Jesus being taken up proves he is God, why does not it prove Einah was God? The same thing happened to him.

I wrote to a man one time, who wrote a book about Christianity and I had some of the objections I mentioned to you now.And his reply to me was that I am making matters difficult to myself, that there are portions in the Bible that are crystal clear and that there are portions that are difficult, and that my problem was that I am looking at the difficult part instead of the clear parts.

The problem is that this is an exercise in self deception - why are some parts clear and some parts difficult? It is because somebody decided what this clearly means, now that makes this very difficult. To give you an example, John Chapter 14, a certain man said to Jesus: Show us God, and Jesus said: If you have seen me you have seen God.

Now without reading on the Christian will say: See Jesus claimed to be God, he said if you have seen me you have seen God. If that is crystal clear then you have a difficult portion when you go back just a few pages to Chapter 5 when another man came to Jesus and said show us God and he said you have never seen God, you have never heard his voice. Now what did he mean there if on the other occasion he meant that he was God? Obviously you have made matters difficult by deciding what the first one meant.

2006-12-04 11:34:00 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

The Quran is the final revelation of God, the Bible isn't.
The Quran has remained unchanged and sums up all the teachings throughout the centuries. It has less allegorical text and is straight to the point. Here is an online English Quran. It is not true that all Muslims believe that the only Quran is an Arabic one, the Quran is for understanding and not for show,
so people translate it to their lauguage. Here is the opening chapter of the Quran:

[1:1] In the name of GOD, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.*

[1:2] Praise be to GOD, Lord of the universe.

[1:3] Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

[1:4] Master of the Day of Judgment.

[1:5] You alone we worship; You alone we ask for help.

[1:6] Guide us in the right path;

[1:7] the path of those whom You blessed; not of those who have angry on them, nor of the strayers.


Here is a link to an online Quran English: http://www.masjidtucson.org/quran/noframes/index.shtml

2006-12-04 20:35:43 · answer #2 · answered by Muse 4 · 0 1

Quite a lot of differences-the bible has books while the quran has suras!
(oh, for pitifull's sake that's all I can think of now-sorry)

2006-12-04 20:17:13 · answer #3 · answered by -♦One-♦-Love♦- 7 · 0 1

The Bible is a story about Jesus, and the plan of salvation, from it's beginning to it's end.

It has hundreds of prophecies that were all fulfilled by Jesus.

God knew and predicted these prophecies because He exists outside the realm of time. As a matter of fact, God created time!

Check out these fulfilled prophecies here.

http://www.schneblin.com/studies/pdfs/in_the_volume_of_the_book.pdf

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The quran could not have come from The Most High God!

The quran had to be made up by Muhammed so he could have something to justify his narcissistic, sinful nature!

The "Real" God would not tell Muhammed to murder people and rob caravans for a living!

http://www.contenderministries.org/islam/muhammad.php

The "Real" God did not tell Muhammed to have sexual intercourse with a 9 year old "Child" when Muhammed was 54 years old!

http://www.geocities.com/AntiJihad/mo_pedo.html

http://www.anwary-islam.com/women/pwife_aisha.htm

Those evil actions disqualify "Anything" that came out of Muhammed's mouth as being even the least bit credible!

2006-12-04 20:55:26 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

me too, so I'm watching this one. I have heard some things, but never took the time to read a quran, but I have saw some verses.........

2006-12-04 19:27:46 · answer #5 · answered by mskash 3 · 1 0

I also have read both of them and I can give you my personal honest opinion.
The Bible was written by over forty people most of whom never met each other and within the life span of 1500 years, in each of their life times. So Moses wrote the first five books, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy, in around the year 1500-1400 BC, and so on until Revelation which was written by John the disciple of Jesus also known as the Beloved Disciple and John the Revelator, in the year 96 AD.

The Bible has been translated into more than 2000 languages and in each of those languages the content remains the same and no misunderstanding as to the meaning and nobody argue about it.

The Quran was supposedly inspired or given by God and Gabriel to Mohammed around the year 600 AD, and was written and compiled by his successors around 150 years later. It has been translated into many languages, although not as many as the Bible, but the Muslims do not accept the translations into other languages as good as the original one in Arabics. They claim that only if it is in Arabic can it be accepted as authentic and reliable.
In all the 66 books, especially in the books of Daniel and Revelation there are prophecies written over 2000 years ago about many nations which have remarkably fulfilled and most of them are even happening in our time now. Which is the time of the end.

In the Quran, there is hardly any prophecy.

The Bible , especially the New Testament emphasize the principal of Love your neighbours as yourself, and it even goes further in teaching people to love their enemies even those who persecute them. Whereas the Quran teaches to love your friends but hate and destroy your enemies. But, of course, both claim to come from One Creator God who is the epitome of Love and Grace and Mercy. Allah irahmanir rahhim.

Besides religious or spiritual matters, the Bible contains a lot of amazing scientific facts, to name just a few, the spherical shape of the earth, (Isaiah 40:22); the countless number of stars, (Jeremiah33:22); while so called scientists in the past though that the earth was like a table carried by Atlas or Hercules, the Bible since the time of Job, which is 3500 years ago, said that it hangs upon nothing. (Job 26:7); the orbit of the sun in Psalm 19:5,6, had been ridiculed in the past as being stupid because the scientist say it is a fact that the sun is still while the planets are moving around it. But now the scientists realize that the whole solar system is really moving in a gigantic orbit travelling at 960,000 kilometers per hour, taking over 200 million years to complete one such journey in space.

There are too many to mention, but I think it is enough to convince myself and many of my friends and other people throughout the ages. But you must decide by yourself by examining it personally to decide which one is really the book of God.

2006-12-04 19:58:45 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Major differences are ...

That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge. That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not. Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise. And there is none of the People of the Book but must believe in him before his death; and on the Day of Judgment he will be a witness against them(Quran, 4:156-159)

And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. "Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, 'worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up Thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things.(Quran, 5:116-117)


O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. (Quran, 4:171)

And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!" (Quran, 61:6)

2006-12-04 19:32:37 · answer #7 · answered by mutmainnah 3 · 2 1

jesus was a jew and the other was a sand picker

2006-12-04 19:25:43 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 6

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