And along the same vein, shouldn't Jesus be in Hell since he died for our sins? It's not much of a sacrifice if you die and go to paradise to live as a god is it?
2006-12-04 09:53:08 · 22 answers · asked by ChooseRealityPLEASE 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Also, Would God violate commandments he gave to us to make a point? Like say 'Thou shalt not murder'....that is when this prophecy is fulfilled and he comes down to smite israel's enemies...Wouldn't that be murder?
Also, at the judgement when people are tossed into this lake of fire? Doesn't that seem like murdering people to anyone else?
2006-12-04 10:08:36 · answer #1 · answered by wondergirl63 1 · 3⤊ 1⤋
This can definitely be a confusing issue. It all goes back to the "mystery" of the Trinity. When Jesus was on the cross, He quoted Psalm 22 (Matthew 27:46; Mark 15:34). This was a psalm of David, but it was a Messianic prophecy as well. If you read the entire psalm, you see the remarkable predictions by David. So, one of the reasons He called God "my God" is that is what the psalm said.
Now, there are other places He calls God His God. In John 20:17 and Revelation 3:2,12, Jesus calls God "My God." Why would God call Himself "My God"? It has to do with Christ's relationship to His Father. Even though Christ is the eternal God Himself incarnate, He is still a different person from the Father. As a man and as man's representative (Son of Man), Jesus' person was dependant on the Father and, like us, looked to the Father for strength, guidance, wisdom, etc. Therefore, God the Father was the God of Jesus. The Father is the God of the Son, but it doesn't imply inferiority, only a difference in roles
2006-12-04 17:59:54 · answer #2 · answered by Yeshua 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
People were no longer creating a relationship with our Lord and Father, they were simply trying to be Holy, so he "completed" his Laws by offering the ultimate Sacrifice... Himself. It was the only way to show the extent of his love.
He suffered, He greived and he went through the worst any of us could endure, so that we have a God who understands
You are just looking for ways to ague, rather than find the truth. Be careful
Not that this is the point either, but I find it sad when a person tries to make our existance a mere happenstance, an accident, a chance in fate in some evolutionary process and have no purpose in life, Rather than have a creator who loves us and has a future to offer.
Though thats not why I believe, I believe because its true.
2006-12-04 17:58:45 · answer #3 · answered by xrionx 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
He took on the sins of people on the cross. And God's wrath was brought onto him, although he was cast into hell, he was raised up out of there. For just like Abraham was told to sacrifice his son, just about when he was ready to kill, God stopped it from happening. The flesh can never be saved. That is why the word says to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
I think what you need to realize is that when God looks at those who have Jesus, he doesn't see our faults but his righteousness. God decided that the punishment Christ beared was enough & he was raised from the dead.
2006-12-04 18:05:45 · answer #4 · answered by ۞ JønaŦhan ۞ 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Your facts are wrong. God is holy, purely and completely righteous, far above anything we can imagine. Any unholy or imperfect cannot exist in his presence. It's impossible.
The laws are a teacher. They expose the truth. They are like a mirror we hold up to ourselves so we can see our flaws, what makes us imperfect, unholy.
We could never reach this holiness on our own. But God always had a plan. Sin can't just be swept under the carpet, hidden away. It had to be extinuished, done away with, completely. So it was all put on Jesus. That did not make him guilty of sin, but the sacrifice for it. By putting our sin on him, our sin is gone. not just covered up. We are as perfect as Jesus is. And because of that, we are able to enter heaven.
Note* We never become a god.
2006-12-04 18:08:54 · answer #5 · answered by ? 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
People who believe in the trinity ignore what the Bible really says. At John 3:17 it CLEARLY says that God sent his son into the world. But trinitarians say that God came down in the form of his own son. Does that make sense to anyone with half a brain?
By the way, can God die?
2006-12-04 18:06:29 · answer #6 · answered by LineDancer 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Because among His attributes is logic and self-consistency.
And Jesus DID go to Hell. He just wiped the floor with Satan when He got there, and took the keys to the place. With the keys, He had free access both in and out.
2006-12-04 18:01:00 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Valid Q. As a Muslim I believe that Jesus can not be mortal and immortal at the same time. For more on what we believe, check our www.jesusthemuslim.com . Mr. Toropov does a much better job of laying it out than I ever could.
2006-12-05 00:01:29 · answer #8 · answered by seefo 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
You are correct, Jesus removed the "sting" of death from humanity by His death. No, death is not intended to be a lose, but a gain for the upright man.
He died in fullfillment of many prophecies/scriptures. He fortold His death. He told the Truth and was killed by those who loved their own power. The Law was not created for God, but rather for man, to live in unity with mankind. The existence of the Law is a reflection of the fact that God loves us. His death, on our behalf, lay His life down for ours, His divine description of His love.
2006-12-04 17:58:50 · answer #9 · answered by BigPappa 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Because the sacrifice of anything is a powerful ritual.
Just look at what Odin got when he sacrificed himself. (To himself, but that's beside the point.)
2006-12-04 17:56:35 · answer #10 · answered by Moriar 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋