What would be the best gun to get a 270 wsm or a 300 Wetherby Mark5 magnum for whitetail and maybe so elk?

Question

I need a cost efficent good qualitiy gun

Answer 1

The .270 wsm would probably be better. My friend just shot an elk a couple weeks ago, it was a 295 yds shot and B&C score of 380. She used the .270wsm. It is a shorter action and has tons more velocity than a regular .270. Although the regular .270 isn't bad at all. And actually you can use it for elk out pretty far. T

he .30/06 is a great round too and has more ammo availability and is found in cheaper rifles than the magnums. The .30/06 and .270 work just as good with less of a flat trajectory but don't have the excessive velocities and as much recoil as some magnums do.

The .30/06 also gives you more of a variety and options of hunting more game with the variety of bullet weights available; as does the.308. But if its a magnum you want, go with the .270wsm as a regular .270 will even kill moose.

As with any gun you need to place your shots correctly to do any good at all. The weatherbys are long action magnums and kick pretty good as with the .300 win mag. You don't really need it for deer or even elk; except maybe for elk and really long shots. But I have taken elk with long shots using the .30/06 and have actually seen no difference between the wsm, regular magnums, or even the .338mag and the venerable .30/06 on deer or elk. Good shots produce kills.

If cost efficient is what you want the .30/06 does it. Pretty much every north american big game hunting can be done with the 06 and has been done. They can be had cheaply in a used Remington 700 which is one of the best guns or you can buy brand new a 710 with some advanced features brand new at a budget price. Savage 110s and Browning A-bolts are good weapons also. The magnums especially weatherby you will be spending lots of money on ammo and won't practice as much do to that and the recoil; plus many people develop a flinch with the magnums. The wsms cure some of that with a short action and less recoil, but have more velocity and energy than you really need and the guns and the ammo isn't widely available and will cost you more.

The final thing is if the regular .270 and regular .30 calibers like .30/06 or .308 do the task fine, why do you need a magnum? It seems to me people like the flatter trajectories and the easiness it is to shoot in wind with the magnums, but in the end cost and recoil drive them away from really shooting. When a .30/06 costs you less and you can do the same thing and practice more which results in more skill that will allow to make those long range shots.

Just some things to consider, the .270 is great for elk and deer and even moose. Jack O'Connor took several grizzlies with the .270 and the .30/06.I have one and used it for deer and primarily antelope when I get bored with my .30/06. Not really bored just something different to carry in the field. I have seen elk taken and taken elk out to 400yds with the .30/06. With proper bullets and good shots one of those two calibers is all you will ever need.

Answer 2

A good quality gun that would be the Weatherby. I agree with knight on the reloadability and the power for light brush hunting. If you really want to hunt Elk and get the big boys the 300 mag is perfect... unless... You hunt elk in forested mountains then you want a slower round the 300 is way too fast and by personal experience it will turn and ricochet. It's heavy and will tire you out on long climbs up snowcapped mountains, you'll find yourself using the butt as a crutch. If your hunting pastures and open fields you cant ask for a better rifle than the 300 Wby mag

Elk aren't normally down in the low country here in Colorado. they move up you find them on the higher plateaus and small mountain clearings. I use a 444 Marlin or a 308 savage. Lighter guns that plow through about anything. In forests it's not easy to scope your quarry so you open sight more often then not. Magnum rifles like the 300 are just too much gun.
There is nothing that a 444 Marlin wont kill from rabbit to bear to moose it will drop everything. It is expensive to shoot and it tells you when it goes off.
The 308 and the 3030 are great mountain guns. The 308 offers more reloadability than does the 300 mag. You can knock down anything that lives in north America with it (big game and small) the 3030 can compete with any bush gun on the market. Both are cheaper to hunt with and both are lighter and more versatile.
The 270 wsm is alot like the 300. it's a magnum, great for long range shooting. In the mountains, climbing through forests you wont be shooting great distances. Those who do normally end up regretting it. You can have a two hundred yard shot and walk three miles to reach your kill. Novice hunters make that mistake and cuss each step as they pack the animal out.
So. take into mind where you hunt, what you expect of the gun. how you plan to pack out game and how fast you are capable of shooting then buy accordingly. Big game guns can be too big, too small and too heavy. You don't make the long shots with 444 Marlins or 3030 Winchesters. You don't hunt brush with high speed Magnums. Take your time and trade a few guns. Find what fits your needs. Start practicing. If the gun has too much recoil and you get the flinch factor try something else. Don't expect a big game rifle not to kick. they all kick. some more than others.
Most important Have fun, be aware and be safe.

Answer 3

The 300 Weatherby is a top notch gun.
I have the 300 mag in a the Browning BLR frame, I love it.
270wsm is fine for white tail but it hasn't got what it takes for Elk. The 300 allows a wider range of reloading options and therefor is the better buy.
The 300 will plow brush better than the 270, it will also be less likely to turn when it hits a twig. Elk are not always in open treeless surroundings and you need something that is not so liable to ricochet

Answer 4

.300 Weatherby Mag is way too much gun for whitetail....I've watched an idiot in our deercamp take several deer the last 10 years with his and he loses probably 1/4 of his meat by blowing them to hell with it. Not to mention, if you're looking for cost efficiency, consider that a box of Weatherby ammo will run you anywhere from $40-$50+. I use Winchester Ballistis Silvertips at a cost of $24(+/-) in my .270 which is plenty of gun for both of those animals, as the wall in my den will contend...shot placement is what counts. You should also consider the .30-06, .308 Win, .280 Rem, 7mm Mag, or 7mm-08. Good luck.

Answer 5

270 WSM for both. 300 Weatherby Magnum is too much for whitetail. I use a 300 WSM for both including Moose.

Answer 6

i have a Browning A-bolt .270, and a Weatherby Mark V .300 Mag. I love both guns. The .270 i s plaenty for a deer but if you are going to hunt elk i would recommend the Weatherby .300.

I do however use my .300 to hunt deer with, and let me tell you a deer shot with a .300 leaves one hell of a blood trail.

Answer 7

Go with the 270, great ballistics and it wont kill and clean a small deer like the heavy hitting 300 does

Answer 8

Of the two choices given and other criteria, the best one would be the Weatherby 300 magnum.

Due to it's longevity, you will probably be able to find a better quality used rifle, and ammo will be more plenty-full and probably (although I have not confirmed this) cheaper.

Answer 9

get a 300 Win Short Mag.

Coach

Answer 10

the 270 is a good long range built eather well do the job you well find more affordable gun in the 270wsm