Are there any documented miracles that cannot be explained with logic instead of a deity?

Answer 1

You're assuming those are the only two choices. They aren't. That's a fallacy called "false bifurication". It's when you offer two choices when there is actually a third.

You asked for one of two choices:
1) Miracles that can be explained with logic
2) Miracles that can only be explained by a deity

The first choice doesn't make sense. If something is a "miracle", that means it is something we don't have adequate explanation for.

The second choice is begging the question. It is implying that anything that can't be "explained with logic" must be explained by a deity. It doesn't.

This is where the third choice (and perhaps fourth, fifth, sixth, etc) comes in.

There are many things for which we have no logical explanation. Mostly this is because we just don't have enough information to form a logical explanation.

There are also coincidences. With trillions of things happening to us each second, some unusual ones are bound to happen. There is no deific cause required for that, either.

Also, there is human nature. If someone is superstitious about black cats, and one crosses them, they would seem to have bad luck the rest day. In fact, good things and bad things happen to us all the time, but the black cat would make us concentrate on the bad ones and ignore good things that happen.

The other part of human nature is what I call a fill it in memory. Let's say we pray that X will happen. Just like the black cat scenario, we would be on the lookout for X to happen and would be more likely to notice it and relate it back to an "answered prayer". But even more than that, let's suppose that Y happened, and that Y superficially is similar to X. Our brains only have a limited memory of that X we prayed for because we prayed for many things in the past. However, when Y happens, we tend to fill in those memories of what X was with Y details.

That's complicated, so let me give an example:
1) You pray for X, which let's suppose was for $100.
2) A day later, you mostly forget praying, but would remember doing so if asked.
3) A day later, you get a rebate back from a purchase you made earlier, which was for $12.27. Your brain vaguely remembers that you prayed for money, but doesn't remember the amount. Your brain fills in that memory with $12.27.
4) You tell your friends you prayed for $12.27 and got EXACTLY that. What a miracle! What are the chances of getting exactly the amount you asked for, which happens to be your sister's birthday, no less! (Your brain threw in that extra connection as a bonus)

For more research on how volatile memories are and how we tend to fill in details, look up the research done by Elizabeth Loftus. She did some excellent work in this area.

Answer 2

Boilerfan - the parting of the red sea has happened in modern times. Napoleon Bonaparte was almost drowned whwen he walked across five miles of exposed Red Sea floor....there is an artificial shelf located ten feet under water...when the wind blows strongly in one direction, the water will actually "part" and you can walk across the sea.... When the wind changes, the sea rushes back to fill the void. So much for your miracle....

The Vatican started a medical review board for "miracles" at Lourdes. Prior to the review board, there was an average of 60 miracles a year. Since 1950 (the start of the med review board), the number has fallen to 1 miracle per year - and even those can be explained away with medical science... Misdiagnosis anyone? All of the miracles come from poor people living in 3rd worldd countries.... You dont see anyone from an industrialized nation going there and having the cases looked at by the review board and being labeled as miracles.... Kinda makes one doubt....

Answer 3

A miracle (documented or not) is a supernatural imposition on a natural world. It is explained logically by crediting the occurence to deity.

Answer 4

Btw why are you assuming "deity" is illogical. My personal belief is that logic exists because of deity. Nature also exists because of deity. If you believe in a deity, "miracles" are just as logical as any other occurrence and actually the only "logical" explaination for them would be deity.

Answer 5

Yes. But then I guess it depends on how "logical" you want the answer to be. For instance, scientist try to determine how the parting of the Red Sea could have been a natural phenomenon. There ideas are so outrageous that a miracle of God actually makes more sense.

Answer 6

My father was in a coma from a stroke, for nine days. had pneumonia.erratic EEG. had to have a machine making him breath Doctor told my mother there was no hope. I got on the floor at my home.and prayed . saying to God your going to heal my Dad God over and over and over. I heard a voice in my head, Go Rub His Feet. I got up.It was seven o'clock when I Begin praying. it was twelve midnight then. five hours on the floor??I went and rubbed his feet he opened his eyes. He was . out of the hospital in 4 days.lived well for 11 more years he had some memory lose and he talked a good bit more then he used to.The doctor told my mother that this was a miracle.the nurse had come in while I was rubbing his feet and told me not to do that, because it could cause blood clots if I rubbed his legs. and I told her that God had told me to rub his feet and to leave the room.she must have told the doctor.You can beleive any way you wont to.I have witnessed a few other miracles.I know without any doubt that Gods spirit works thru people that have faith. and I also beleive in angels.

Answer 7

No. You hear of little miracles - people cured of cancer after praying when medicine was not working - but then others aren't. Not that it means there isn't some form of supernatural power that might be working on some, but at this point you can not prove it.

Answer 8

visible miracles. These are just refuted with a 'we haven't discovered that yet' a convenient reply to whip out.

ok. I consider a miracle, they way atoms and electrons are held together. The mechanics of light. The beauty of a symmetrical tree, when entropy and chaos is law. A person, starving, giving their last food to another.

Answer 9

YES.
at present time there is a living miracle in the world. Its The Holy Qoran. As no one can create even a verse like it ,as this book itself had previously stated that "no one can creat a line of it even if all the people in all the times gather together".
alas ! you should be familiar with arabic language to appreciate its magnificent style and miraclous attraction.

Answer 10

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