Hunting: We shall never agree?

Question

I I am pro hunting. Lets clear that up now. I am not writing to argue with the people who are not. I just want to share my feelings. Before i met my partner i was anti hunting. I didnt believe that it was necessary to have to hunt these fox's. i thought there could be another way around it. I met my partner, around the time which was so pivotal in the fight against the ban. I told him that although i didnt agree, i would go and experiance it for myself so that i could make an informed opinion. i realize now that it is the best way to control the fox population, which needs controlling. It is an age old tradition, which kings and paupers have both enjoyed. My boyfriend is a whip at one of the hunts and so i am involved personally on a daily basis. The people that are referred to as Toffs are some of the nicest people you could ever hope to meet. I dont want to convert people by writing this. i just want you to be knowledgable and look at both sides of the arguement before deciding.

i must admit i do not agree with the terrier work in volved. it is not the side of hunting that i like. i dont like though that people paint the hounds as these 'monsters'. They are the most lovely animals. So sweet and gentle.

midsojo: I do apreciate your answer, after all it is your opinion and we are all entitled to one of those..at least for the minute with political correctness being as it is at the minute. i understand that tresspassing on land can be very hurtfull and distressing, but i do want to let you know it will never be the huntsman. the hounds will have gone on and the staff will do all possible not to let this happen, but i am sure you know that hounds on scent are not always totally obediant as with any animal. As for the blooding of the children. you will find this does not go on anymore, or at least not that i know about. thank you was nioce to hear your view.

Answer 1

I totaly agree....before I met my Husband I was anti and 16 yrs old who knew know better than to shoot off at the mouth, Having seen it from a estate managers/game keepers point of view I learned the importance in hunting!

Answer 2

I grew up hunting and fishing. It is part of my heritage and what I did as a child. Now I have seen the light and went to the other side.....just kidding. I still hunt and fish. I am obsessed with fishing.

I only hunt animals I eat. (not justifying, just stating fact.) I don't see the point of sport hunting or hunting predators. I can't stand to see them hunt the mountain lion. With that said, I don't want those kinds of hunts to go away. That is all it will take is for those peta people to get their foot in the door somewhere and then they will get on a roll. But don't get me wrong, if there was good money, like in the early 80s, in trapping, I would be out doing that too. Too bad the coyotes have driven away all the fox. Killing all the coyotes one sees will not bring back the fox either. I don't think we can keep up with their population, plus more would move in. Unless the price on coyotes went way up.

Animal populations will not keep themselves in check because of humans. There are no predators here in Indiana that can control the whitetail herds. Coyotes can't do it and the human population is too large to bring back any other predator to control the deer herds.

Answer 3

First, I can not truely form an opinion of the "fox" hunting of England. I am American after all.

I am an avid hunter, the anti's will never understand any of this. They will never live their homes long enough to see the wild. Their Xbox 360 might break. Or their 3000 Us Dollar computer might quit working.

As for Wyvern: that has to be the silliest statemant: "I would support hunting if hunters attacked animals with their bare hands"

DUH: Man has never attacked animals with their bare hands. Before, Man created weapons they were "gathers".

but, I am tired of argueing this point. it does no real good.

Thanks

Edit:
We do not kill animals for fun. Ok, Lets ban all hunting and when the cute little deer, fox, squrriels etc etc. Start invading downtown USA to consume your tulips and gardens. Dont beg the hunters back.

Answer 4

As an avid hunter (whitetail deer, grouse, ducks, seaducks) I agree that hunting should only be done with land owner permission. I live in Maine and they use dogs here for rabbits, bears, and coyote. The coyote population is killing off the deer population, but the food chain has become top heavy, with Coyotes being the dominant and more abundant one around. I never hunted until I met my partner. I wasn't for or against it as I didn't know enough to form an opionion. I love hunting, and not just for the sport of it, but to fill the freezer with free range meat also. Hunting has been a way of life for thousands of years, and now people can form their opinion that they feel it's wrong. We've overdeveloped and left no habitat for many animals, so why be cruel and let them starve? Hunting curbs the populations. In the end, I think we all need to agree to disagree sometimes.

Answer 5

The thought of foxes is a novelty for most people so you can understand why people don't like the thought of these beautiful creatures being torn apart by a bunch of hounds. However, I totally understand the destruction that foxes cause and for most country folk, they are a real pest and some control is needed over their population.

Although I know it's rare for a hunt to catch a fox, personally, I have a problem with it for a couple of reasons. If the fox goes to ground, it's dug out and shot - not fair. I had one take refuge in one of my outbuildings once - only to be met with hounds, horses and riders on MY property trying to catch the creature! In the past I have many times witnessed hunts crossing privately owned land and public highways and causing destruction and road chaos.

I do ride and can understand the exhiliration of hacking out across fields, fresh air in your lungs, brilliant. But does it really have to be at the expense of chasing a creature to death?

Answer 6

Your are right, this argument will never end....I have never fox hunted, but I would like to someday.

When most anti-hunters, at least here in the states, do not get, is that Hunters do more to help the wildlife population that any-anti hunter i have ever seen. We know more about the species, the population, and what needs to be done. Plus, who do you think funds all of those new game preserves and wildlife habitats....the hunters paying for the fees and permits to hunt....and I know I seen someone say that they truly beleive that hunters hunt just to kill....well I garatee you are wrong there....we hunt to be in nature, to enjoy wildlife and to put food in the freezer.....we don't hunt just to kill....how many of you anti-hunters can say you have seen a wild squirrel so close you could touch it...or have a deer wald so close to you that you could see its nose hair......I will bet none of very few.....You don't have to like hunting, but you should respect it....its not easy....it takes work...I don't see any of you walking 10 miles to protect an animal...or spending 4 hours tracking an animal you shot and didn't hit quite right.......it not just walking in and pulling a trigger....it takes time, money, preperation, and WORK.

Answer 7

True hunters are care takers of the earth. Whether you agree with hunting or not, you can not deny the prohunting group's contributions to the enviornment. Without a habitat and animals there would be no hunting (Pheasants forever etc). Without them our enviornment may be at the mercy of large corporations leaving the fight solely up to the remaining environmentalists.

Answer 8

i am a hunter and for anti's i could care less about their opinions or misguided and uneducated answers they are full of bull or salad they are all in a world that wants everything right now and if the world goes south they will all starve or will they eat dead meat and they will have to kill it.............they think as long as they don't have to think about it being killed its OK and there leather shoes and handbags belts they are OK too................................................ i will kill something for them maybe a fox or a little deer better eating.............: > ) tender

Answer 9

YOU WILL NEVER SWAY THE OPINIONS OF THOSE THAT ARE AGAINST HUNTING. HOWEVER I DO FEEL THAT THERE IS AN HONEST AND WELL THOUGHT OUT APPROACH TO YOUR REASONING.
I WISH OTHERS WOULD AT LEAST SEE BEFORE FORMING AN OPINION
I DO THANK YOU FOR EXPRESSING SUCH A WELL EDUCATED OPINION

Answer 10

Hi there.

I'm anti-hunting and always will be. I sincerely doubt that you came from an anti-hunting background (or were, 100% against it) as what you will have seen on a hunt would have been the slow torture of a wild animal for 'kicks'- so I'm not quite sure what you would have experienced any different to change your mind. If anything, this seems a very sad PR piece.

I have a family friend who lives in the country who is against fox-hunting for reasons other than animal rights (he doesn't care for animal rights whatsoever). At the back of his land, the 'hunt' regularly trespasses. The packs of dogs have mutilated family pets and destroyed land and crops. Because we all know who is involved in this sport, attempting to press charges is usually a pointless cause.

The fox population is not out of control in the countryside. It has become out of control in city areas because these animals have been forced out of their natural habitat. If you and your fellow huntsmen went out and murdered more foxes, and a rabbit problem then spiralled out of control, you would be saying that rabbit hunting was required to keep the population down.

The fox, as a predator, should be allowed to hunt.
The human, as a destructive force, should not be allowed to hunt.

If this was about population control, there are far more humane methods available. It is not. It is about a lust for blood- just the fact that the young are smeared with blood on their first hunt- makes me concerned for the mentality of the people involved. If I went out and killed a cat and smeared blood on my face, I would be branded a Satanist or a devil worshipper. Please, tell me what the difference is.

I'm sure some of the people seem nice, and act nice in other walks of life, but then John Wayne Gacy used to moonlight as a much loved clown, and hey, we all know what happened with him.