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When Jesus say I and my father are one. You say there are two gods (jesus and God).
When Jesus says I, my father and my 12 disciple are ONE. Do you believe that jesus is saying that you shouyld believe 12 gods. Is there one God?
Are there 3 gods?
Are there 12 gods?
Why not you read Quran, the final guidance?

2006-12-03 15:54:58 · 21 answers · asked by Asif S 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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NO there is but one God represented in 3 different personalities. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. All one in essence. When Jesus said that he and the Father were one he is relating himself to diety. He is saying that he was God in the flesh. He also told his disciples that if they have seen him then they have seen God also.

So since the Bible is the final authority then I accept it's truths. The Quran is not a final authority by any means because it teaches entirely different things than the Bible. There is no room for love of your fellow human beings in the Quran like there is in the Bible.

2006-12-03 16:03:54 · answer #1 · answered by bro_ken128 3 · 1 0

The BIble is the final guidance. The disciples were hand picked by Jesus to continue His work after Jesus ascended into heaven, but they were never on the same level as Jesus. There is only one God, and He is made of the Trinity: Father (God), Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit. It's like a 4 leaf clover...they are all separate leaves, yet they are all the same and connected at the same time.

2006-12-04 00:03:41 · answer #2 · answered by jennabeanski 4 · 1 0

Case for a trinity
(Please remember that the texts when you go further back will have different translations because the church was run by the state who had an agenda, the changes were necessary for the truth…)


Genesis 1:26

This would not be a reference to the angels… (I understand that some people believe that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are God’s in their own right but as this discussion goes on it shall be very evident that they are triune.)

John 1 – The whole of the chapter.

Particularly verse 3+4 (but you need the whole chapter in context. God needs Jesus there to create. Jesus brought life (Jn 14:6) and Jhn 1:7 light – Jesus is referred to as light.

1 Cor 8:6 One God – the Father and Lord Jesus Christ.

Hebrew 1 + 2 (whole chapter) – Jesus through whom He created the universe…

Matt 28:19 ; God is a jealous God, 2 Co 11:2; Ex 20:5; Ex 34:14; Dt4:24 (why would he says those things and then encourage us to worship two other deities?)

John 14:26; 15:26 (Concerning the Holy Spirit)

In Isaiah the prophecy concerning Jesus’ name is Isa 9:6 – Wonderful, Counselor, Almighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

2 Peter 1:1-2

Rev 1:8; Revelation 22:12-17 (again referrer to John 1; Gen 1:26; Who is returning???)
Jesus who was (Jesus who died), who is (Jesus who is seated at the right hand of God (could he be the right arm?), who is to come (Jesus who is coming to take us to Heaven) Ref: John 1:1 -3 (Oh no are there three Jesus’?)

Isaiah 51:9-11

Isaiah 53 – Prophecy of Jesus
-Arm of the Lord revealed (connected implication)

Romans 10:9 – Through Jesus we are saved, Hebrews 11 – Faith in God was how the Old testament people were saved, now it is the same in the name of Jesus…

Just to throw it out there

Romans 3:22 -26

(TRY NIV, NKJ, CEV, Young’s literal translation, Darby Translation)

2006-12-04 02:04:19 · answer #3 · answered by Abbasangel 5 · 0 1

Sorry Gary. Muhammad said that Jesus is the Christ. A Muslim cannot be A muslim if he does not believe Jesus Christ is the Christ. However the saying that he is God or Gods son is no different than saying that Abraham or Moses or all righteous ppl are gods children. But what you want to say is that he is God in some way and Never will a muslim disrespect God or his prophets with such Lying disbelief and blasphemy.

2006-12-04 00:11:39 · answer #4 · answered by Barak Obama 3 · 0 0

Because the Q'ran was not written until more than 500 years AFTER Mohamed died.

Because the Q'ran is filled with hate for women.

Because the Q'ran tells lies about Jesus.

Matthew 3:16-17
16 After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him,
17 and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased."

WOW all three together in one passage.

Matthew 28:18-20
18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."

All three in one verse!

If Muslims accept The Book as God's word, there it is. The Trinity.

2006-12-04 00:08:25 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

There is one God in three persons: the Holy Trinity.
Why is the quran the final guidance? I don't believe that. I believe in the Bible, not the quran.
I'm sorry, but I can never condone a religion that screams "Death to America!" and "Death to Israel!" I'm a peaceful person who respects the dignity of human life...and I love America.

2006-12-04 00:11:57 · answer #6 · answered by ♥ Rose♥ 3 · 0 0

That text at John 10:30, is often cited to support the Trinity, even though no third person is mentioned there. But Jesus himself showed what he meant by his being "one" with the Father. At John 17:21, 22, he prayed to God that his disciples "may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, . . . that they may be one just as we are one." Was Jesus praying that all his disciples would become a single entity? No, obviously Jesus was praying that they would be united in thought and purpose, as he and God were.—See also 1 Corinthians 1:10.


Jesus prayed to God that his disciples might "all be one," just as he and his Father "are one"


At 1 Corinthians 3:6, 8, Paul says: "I planted, Apollos watered . . . He that plants and he that waters are one." Paul did not mean that he and Apollos were two persons in one; he meant that they were unified in purpose. The Greek word that Paul used here for "one" (hen) is neuter, literally "one (thing)," indicating oneness in cooperation. It is the same word that Jesus used at John 10:30 to describe his relationship with his Father. It is also the same word that Jesus used at John 17:21, 22. So when he used the word "one" (hen) in these cases, he was talking about unity of thought and purpose.

Right in the context of the verses after John 10:30, Jesus forcefully argued that his words were not a claim to be God. He asked the Jews who wrongly drew that conclusion and wanted to stone him: "Why do you charge me with blasphemy because I, consecrated and sent into the world by the Father, said, 'I am God's son'?" (John 10:31-36, NE) No, Jesus claimed that he was, not God the Son, but the Son of God.

True Christianity has only one God. His name is Jehovah.

2006-12-04 01:45:53 · answer #7 · answered by LineDancer 7 · 0 0

I have different beliefs than yours because I believe that Jesus is the Son of God, however, that is a good point, or illustration about God and Jesus being separate individuals. Thank you.

2006-12-04 00:01:58 · answer #8 · answered by wannaknow 5 · 0 0

I don't believe in the Trinity, but I am Christian. I believe he meant that Jesus and the disciple are of one intent, one heart. Same with Jesus and the Lord.

(Either that or he is schizophrenic, saying"God, why has though forsaken me?" to himself) *shrug*

2006-12-04 00:21:54 · answer #9 · answered by sulilyreads 2 · 0 0

Muslims (and Islam) say Jesus was a prophet but they reject all His teachings ....that is hypocrisy.

They reject Christ's divinity;
they reject his claim to be the Son of God;
they reject his death on the cross...
they reject His ressurrection..
They reject Jesus is the Christ/ Messiah...
Need I say more...?

Don't be deceived. The Islamic god is totally different than the God of Jesus Christ .

"Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is anti-Christ, that denies the Father and the Son. He that denies the Son, the same has not the Father." (I John 2:22)

2006-12-03 23:57:26 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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