Atheists and agnostics: what do u think of these arguments for the existance of God?

Question

http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics-more/20_arguments-gods-existence.htm

THESE MIRACLES
http://www.faithnet.org.uk/AS%20Subjects/Philosophyofreligion/miraclesbible.htm

Answer 1

Wow. That's long. OK, I skimmed the first one, and since I really doubt you're going to take any of our answers under consideration anyway, here goes: where in the physical laws do you see that nothing can change? We see change everywhere in the universe. There's no need for god to make atoms bump into each other; they do it anyway. So since your first argument really makes no sense ... I'm not going to continue.

Answer 2

Wow, you don't honestly expect anyone to wade through all that before answering do you?

Best I can do is say: anything that begins with an assumption so full of holes as "the default option is: God exists" doesn't dignify the name of argument. I daresay these work for you and many other people and I'm pleased for ya, but you address atheists and agnostics as if we haven't given this subject JUST a little thought. Most atheists were believers once, just ones who kept on looking at the arguments in more and more depth until...

Btw, the "Argument from Miracles" the guy cites above is a textbook circular argument - a point I simply think no explanation will enable you to realize.

Kudos, Kathryn, that link is excellent.

Answer 3

I have heard them all before. They amount to two major reasons:

Believe because you want there to be a god, feel there is, or because you are afraid of the consequences it there is and you don't. -- I have addressed these over and over. This doesn't provide evidence, so it can't change my view and I really don't even find it a rational argument.

Second that the existence of man or the universe implies god. I really don't see what good this argument is at all because if you say god did it then you just pushed the question back a step. I would need evidence to add a step that really didn't answer a thing. Further even if I bought this argument that would move me to the realm of a Deist, not a Christian because I would still be without evidence besides my own existence so it would be impossible to say what religion was right.

Answer 4

All of these are faulty, but you should pick your best single argument and propose it. No one on here has the time to respond to 10 faulty arguments. That is called Machine Gunning and is a type of logical fallacy. If you can't come up with one good argument come up with lots of bad ones. Anyone can come up with lots of bad arguments for anything. The number of arguments has nothing to do with the quality of the arguments. If you can't come up with one decent argument then don't waste everyone's time presenting ten!

As far as miracles in the bible. There are miracles in Star Wars movies, Superman comic books, Spiderman comic books etc. Yet no one claims any of these miracles are evidence that any of these stories are true. Indeed the fact these stories contain miracles is further evidence they were made up.

Answer 5

9. The Argument from Miracles

1. A miracle is an event whose only adequate explanation is the extraordinary and direct intervention of God.
2. There are numerous well-attested miracles.
3. Therefore, there are numerous events whose only adequate explanation is the extraordinary and direct intervention of God.
4. Therefore God exists.

What miracles?

Answer 6

'Miracles in the Bible' - I believe the Bible is a book, created and written by men. . . No different then Snow White, or The Three Little Pigs. Therefore, I don't believe any of these 'miracles' ever actually occured.

In reply to your question overall - http://www.godisimaginary.com

=) Have a good day!

Answer 7

There are only 20 there. My link has over 300 proofs for the existence of God. What do you think?

Answer 8

I think they are just made up opinions about the existence of god.

Answer 9

Lunacy

Answer 10

Full of holes.