Using LOGIC and NOT the BIBLE, how and why is homosexuality wrong?

Question

I'm interested in a religious viewpoint, but I would like to hear the reasoning backed up by some sort of proof BEYOND the Bible. How is homosexuality logically, philosophically, or morally wrong?

And if your arguement is that it is "unnatural" then maybe all the homosexuals should come and take away your birth control, your eyeglasses, your pacemakers, your air conditioning, your blended fiber clothing, and many of our other modern day conveniences that are "unnatural" too..right?

Answer 1

My logic may be different than other people's logic, but here is what I think.
God wants people to reproduce. If this is true, then homosexuality doesn't achieve this goal, thus it is wrong.
If we take God out of the picture and just look at nature, animals should be driven to reproduce to pass their good genes on to offspring. Thus, if there is no desire to reproduce, they must have bad genes and they themselves would be wrong according to nature.

Another thought is that a man and a women compliment each other, well, at least they should. Not just sexually, but also emotionally. Homosexual relationships are missing emotional parts that men or women may need in order to be better people.

Keep in mind, I am not saying that I think being homosexual is wrong, you just asked, so I gave some of the things I have thought about.

Answer 2

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Answer 3

Thousands of years ago, when the tribes of Israel needed more people so that they could be stronger, homosexual relationships resulted in no children, and may have spread diseases. So it didn't make sense to condone them. Thousands of years later with safe-sex practices, in-vitro fertilization, and over-population this logic falls apart. The ancient Greeks encouraged homosexuality because they believed that it would increase their soldiers ferocity in battle if their lovers lives were at stake. The bible also mentions nothing at all about female homosexuality - it isn't in there. I think some people just need something to fear so that they can (artificially) feel better about themselves. Some homosexual men have contributed greatly to civilization and culture, and some "straight" ones have done very little, or worse. Its an ancient prejudice that is falling apart under the scrutiny of modern-day logic. For me, its a medical issue, not a moral one.

Addition: I find it amazing that so many people posting here are telling God what to do!!! As to it not being natural, if it wasn't "natural" it wouldn't be happening at all! As to "it doesn't produce children" (my argument from ancient times) neither does oral sex, masturbation, or even regular intercourse all the time, and these practices are considered "normal"! I can see its going to take a LONG time for people to wake up to their prejudices.

To the poster below who says homosexuals have a much higher chance of becoming HIV positive: then why is AIDS an epidemic among HETEROSEXUALS in Africa??? Your information is out of date - HIV is a virus that doesn't give a damn if you are gay or straight - those are the MEDICAL facts - not my own personal opinion. To those who make the "toaster" analogy, do you know how many heterosexual couples practice anal sex? Some of the "logic" here isn't logic at all!!!

Answer 4

Ok so here is my logic. It is wrong if it causes pain to any one, that includes you. SO if something that I do doesn't cause me pain or any one else around me then that action is right.

The above statements that homosexuals are full of sex and tend to be promiscuous are false. The rate of promiscuity between heterosexuals is just as much and today AIDS is predominant in the heterosexual community not the gay community. But that does not mean heterosexuality is wrong.

Second the saying that homosexuality is "un-natural" I ask can you define "un-Natural"? If you mean that it is un-natural because it is not found in animals then I say you do some research, you will see that homosexual behavior is also found among animals. If you say that it is un-natural because it did not exsit before and all of a sudden there are alot of homosexuals, then you are wrong again because today more people tend to be open about themselves, this does not mean that people were not gay 10, 50, 100 or 1000 years ago, it just means that no one told any one about it. It would have been suicide to do so.

Oh and what epostle11 said about suicide rate, drug use and anti social behavior. What you are missing is the reason for all those behaviors. It is not Homosexuality that is to blame there. But rather the society and in-tolerance of people. There is a high rate of suicide, drugs and anti-social behavior amongst gay teens because of all that this society puts us through. Being constantly bad mouthed and hated will lead one to naturally believe that they are bad. This has nothing to do with their sexuality but rather the injustices of the society that lead people to these harmful behaviors. This is just like all the eugenics crap that was used to discriminate against blacks years back, that becuase they are black they are dumb and all that. When now we know that there is no basis for all that.

Oh and to what Charis said about not volunteering and all that, I just think that it has nothing to do with a person's sexuality. Personally I do community service and am a medical student. I am not sure what part of that is selfish.

So in all I think it is only people's in ability to see and accept our differences that leads to unacceptance. There are no logical basis for homosexualit being wrong.

Answer 5

It is wrong for numerous reasons.
1. Research has shown that children need a role model of their gender. Two men leaves no role model for a little girl. Two women leave no role model for a little boy.
2. Reproduction cannot take place. People have the ability to reproduce and to do so it takes one man and one woman. Not two men or two women.
3. STDs are more easily spread throughout the homosexual community (not saying they have more incidences just saying what is there spreads easier). As practices such as anal sex and oral sex promote the exchange of fluids (carrying STDs) more than vaginal-penile sex and in anal sex tearing the tissue of the rectum; which is very delicate; allowing the fluids direct access to the blood steam.
4. Being homosexual increases your risk of carrying HIV. This means you have a death sentence. Eventually one day (as of current research), you will seroconvert (whether tomorrow or 20 years from now), have full blown AIDS and die.
5. Philosophically I cannot see the homosexuals furthering or being of assistance to our culture and our society. Homosexuality promotes descrimination. Wal-Mart has implemented a program to teach its employees to be sensitive to homosexuals. What happened to teaching the homosexuals to be sensitive to the hetreosexuals? Every homosexual I have known has focused on how their rights as a homosexual have been violated not on helping in any way. They do not focus on volunteering, assisting anyone, they focus solely on themselves. Every homosexual I have met is selfish.
6. Morally I find homosexuality down right wrong. If it had ever been intended to happen it would have been the norm ever since our world came into being. However the norm has been one man and one woman. Being married to a man (I am a woman) compliments me. I can PMS all I want to and he isn't going to. He can can want sex all of the time and I don't. We balance each other. When sex is all he can think about I can redirect him towards what needs to get done that day vs. if we were two men all we would do would be have sex all day and never get anything done. If all I am doing is PMS he can point out that I am snapping at people and hold me when I cry and he himself is most likely not going to break down too. If we were two women we would sit there and sob and sob and sob and feed into each other and sob even more. Having one man and one woman makes those in the relationship compliment each other.
So in the end I find that homosexuality does not benefit or add to our society or culture in any way, causes discrimination, does not provide a suitable home for children, and does not provide a nuturing enviroment for the adults in the relationship.

Answer 6

Logically speaking, sexually a man fits perfectly with a woman. Two same magnets repel each other. Two opposite magnets attract. In nature, animals will always choose the opposite sex if they available. Homosexuals generally, though not 100% of the time, have way more partners in their lifetime than heterosexuals. Homosexuals have a much higher chance of becoming HIV positive.

Answer 7

There are a lot of biological reasons why it might not be healthy. It seems that all of nature produces offspring and even though we are over populated, for generations now that has been the purpose of mating. We don't always mate for that purpose any more. Also without going into detail, our anatomies are set up a certain way and the purpose of each orifice seems to be pretty clear. It would seem there is somewhat of a danger medically to use a orifice that disposes of bacteria and waste for other purposes. Not condemning - just giving thoughts.

Answer 8

Dot (answer above), you are truly a moron. Heterosexual sex causes AIDS too. To answert the question, there is nothing wrong with it. What I REALLY want to know is.....why do all these people who are so dead set against homosexuality have a problem with it in the first place? Homosexuality does not affect them in ANY way. No one comes into your house and tells you and your spouse how to live your lives, so where do these people get off telling homosexuals how to live theirs?

Answer 9

OK, I'll give it a shot. Look at your toaster. See the plug? Now take the plug and try to plug it into the plug on your blender? Does it work? Does it have power? Will it fire up and work or is it dead? Now let's look at the electrical outlet. Take the toaster plug and plug it into the outlet. Viola! It works like magic!

We were designed with different "plumbing" for a reason that seems obvious to all except homosexuals.

Morally and logically, you can't reproduce. There's a reason for that as well. Children are a blessing from God. He never has and never will bless or honor a homosexual union.

Answer 10

Personally, I don't feel that it's wrong. I feel that a person has no real control over who they fall in love with, and love is not 'wrong'. The only thing that should matter in this life is whether you are a good person that treats others with respect and dignity as you would like to be treated. Live and let live.