the same as defining a word using the same word? people quote the bible to prove god's existence but it doesn't make sense. people who believe in god wrote the bible, over a thousand years ago when a jar of mayonnaise would be considered a miracle.
2006-12-03 08:07:06 · 22 answers · asked by flopwood_turley 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
the bible is a book written by people who do not even agree with some of the supposedly historical events they describe. it's also an old book and lacks observable evidence of its truth. you can't discuss the existence of god by using a book that supposedly quotes a god. the story of creation in genesis is obviously not historical but whenever non believers challenge it, they are met with the excuse that it is a metaphor. from what i see and can know at this time, god is a metaphor.
2006-12-03 09:26:12 · answer #1 · answered by heyrobo 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
You seem to imply that ppl weren't as intelligent as we are now, this is an assumption. If you make the Bible your foundation, and interpret things from that, then you see that our minds have actually been deteriorating from sin, so while they may be surprised at the appearance of a bottle of mayonnaise, they may be better able to explain some of it than we think.
Every belief system has axioms, things we assume to be true, this is necessary to get anywhere. When someone does an experiment, they assume that the way chemicals and compounds interact won't change in the future, otherwise science wouldn't get much done in chemistry. Assumptions are a necessary part of any worldview. So using the Bible to prove God's existence isn't wrong, it's simply means that the axiom the person is using is that the Bible is the word of God. The Bible actually assumes God's existence is understood by the reader when it says "In the beginning God created"
2006-12-03 09:22:39 · answer #2 · answered by STEPHEN J 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Thats part about the jar of mayonnaise is definately not true. Having an angel appear out of nowhere and then burn up a plate of food set on a rock would be an example of a miracle. I can see why you would see it as circular reasoning though. I don't think the only evidence of God is in the BIble. I have seen many evidences from my life through answered prayers that only can be attributed to God, not just helping me find my wallet although that is nice. Also very strong evidence of the battle going on all around us between good and evil. I would recommend you purchase the Great Controversy. Excellent read. But the Bible also contains prophecies related to Jesus being the Messiah, the Israelites capture and release, the collapse of ancient nations hundreds of years before they were even real powers. Those all help reinforce the validity of the Bible with real historical events. It is not just the Bible saying, hey I am right. I see that circular logic going on more so in the Catholic church, about their authority to rewrite scripture. Even though the Bible says to not take or add anything to it, they can just say oh yeah don't worry about that verse, we took it out. The other reason to believe the scripture is that we view it as a whole book. however it is really a compilation of books written over a period of thousands of years, and yet the theme is all the same, all pointing to one messiah. All the books are like different pieces of a puzzle that when put together form a coherent picture. That is strong evidence as the the inspiration of the words.
2006-12-03 08:24:57 · answer #3 · answered by The GMC 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Quite the opposite---If the head of a large firm dictated to his secretary his wishes and she in turn writes the letter, who is credited for the letter. It would be the one that initiates it. As with GOD, through direct communication, dreams, and visions His secretary wrote the words.communicated .
If GOD is capable of creating all life and sustaining it, He is certainly capable of transmitting messages. Look at what men have done with TV and radio. Messages are transmitted all the time from a force not visible at the moment.
We have law books that men wrote. We have had famous men and Presidents that are long gone. Why do we believe they exist? The answer,History books. The Bible is like that history book.
2006-12-03 08:20:09 · answer #4 · answered by robert14454 1 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Your question is good but what you may accept as proof, someone else says it proves nothing. What then is proof?
I see a building but I never saw the builder, do I deny that there was a builder? I never meet the builder, I didn't see the plans, the materials, or even the work of the building being built. Does that take away the face that there was a builder?
I did not see creation come to being, do I then look at all of creation and deny the creator? Just as the building tells of a builder just because it exists so it is with creation. Building = Builder, Creation = Creator. Does not both take creative design for them to exist?
2006-12-03 08:18:50 · answer #5 · answered by Dead Man Walking 4 · 1⤊ 2⤋
I agree 100%. God is a spirit, an energy, anything you wish it to be. Some people feel it is in the Bible. As far as I know, a book written 2000 years ago is not a substantial source for proof of a higher being. The sun, the stars, the snow, compassion, empathy, and kindness are my sources for a belief in spriritual energy (not some guy on a throne).
2006-12-03 08:11:40 · answer #6 · answered by Me, Thrice-Baked 5 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Would you feel that reading your car's owner's manual to find out some piece of information about your car wouldn't make sense?
The folks who made the car wanted you to have the information so that you could make informed choices.
God chose to do the same. We can look at creation and KNOW that God exists. But that would not tell me how to live with my neighbor or treat my wife or even honor my maker.
You settle for your own ideas, I think that I will listen to my Father's. He's a lot smarter than I am.
2006-12-03 08:36:21 · answer #7 · answered by deepndswamps 5 · 1⤊ 2⤋
One should not believe in God just because a religious book says there is a God. Read the whole book and then see if it is really to be believed or not, for example Quran talks about a lot of scientific things that were not known to man in those days and are only being proven today.
2006-12-03 08:10:45 · answer #8 · answered by A fan 4 · 1⤊ 3⤋
I agree. I think some people think god has a typewriter and a printer. No religious person wants to consider that the bible was compiled by many different people over a long period of time. And they certainly don't want to admit that the bible was edited by church authorities.
2006-12-03 08:12:15 · answer #9 · answered by manywarhoops 3 · 1⤊ 3⤋
I think its a bit redundant to quote the Bible to a non-believer unless the question from the non-believer pertains to the Bible. If you were to ask me why I believe Jesus is God? Then I'd have to quote the Bible since it is a Biblically linked concept. But if you were to ask me why I believe in God, I would likely tell you my personal experiences. Not that they would convince you, but because it was what convinced me.
2006-12-03 08:17:06 · answer #10 · answered by impossble_dream 6 · 1⤊ 3⤋