Weren't all breeds of dogs mutts at one point in time?

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Obviously, all the breeds of dogs "recognized" by the AKC were mutts at one point in time. In order to get the purebred dogs that we have today, other dogs had to be bred to another breed of dog. Am I not correct? So people who are breeding mutts today, such as a Pom/Poodle mix, or a Labradoodle down the road may have a recognized breed by the AKC. It only takes so many generations of breeding in order to get the AKC to recognize a mutt as a purebred.

So, I would say, rather then telling people not to breed the dogs that they want to breed, just tell them they are not a recognized breed as of yet.

You never know, that Labradoodle 20 years down the road may be in Westminster and win BIS.

horselovershas's, sorry if I spelled your name wrong, that is the point I am trying to get across. The only reason why the purebred dogs of today are called purebreds is because one of the registries decided that the breed is purebred.

There is no reason to tell someone that their breed of dog is a POS because it's a mutt. Or no one has any business breeding mutts, especially your most known mutts, Pom/Poodle mixes, Labradoodle and the like. This is after all how most if not all breeds were created.

Mustanglynnie, That's fine and dandy. Rather then others putting the people down breeding mix breed dogs, why don't they show them something like what you linked? That would go a longer way then telling them they are idiots and have no reason breeding dogs.

BTW, to clear things up, I do not breed dogs or cats. I don't breed any pets actually, not yet at any rate. When I do it will be Boas and Leopard Geckos. I do own dogs, but see no reason to breed them. It's not my thing.

M J, are you saying that your that short sighted that you can't see it possibly happening in the future? You say that if I want to see a breed in progress check this breed out. Well, where did that breed start? Had to start somewhere did it not?

I am not trying to give anyone a laugh, I am trying to get those of you who keep condemning the mixes that are out now to understand that those breeds that you condemn now, may be actual breeds 20 years down the line if taken seriously by those breeding said mixes.

If you don't believe me, take a look at the silken windhound, the breed that you mentioned. Do not say that it can't happen.

m j, I have educated myself on the subject, and I am not closed minded as you seem to be. So they haven't moved passed F1. Maybe no one has been motivated enough to do so. Doesn't mean it won't happen, this is the point I am trying to get across.

Ahh, GitEmGang, I wondered when I was going to smell your foul stench of an answer. You again prove why your an idiot. Do us all a favor and just leave this site. You do absolutely nothing good for the world of dogs with your nasty answers. Calling me an idiot? Hah! That's rich!

Answer 1

It makes sense that a dog would be a mutt at one point in history. Most of the time dogs are considered pure breds when they are registered in a club like the american kennel club or spicific dog breed clubs.

Answer 2

That's completely accurate. The problem with "designer dogs" is that the majority, not all, but the majority, of these mixed breed dogs are not from responsible breeders working with a parent breed club to create a new breed. They have no intention of creating a long-term plan for these random "breeds" they are creating. The vast majority are people who are taking two dogs which are not good specimens for breeding within their own breed and then breeding them together without health testing and then throwing a fancy price tag on it. It's insulting that those dogs are the exact same quality (sometimes lower) of what you could find at the pound, but are marketed as though they are something special.

From what I know of the origin of the Labradoodle, the initial breeder actually had a really great plan and purpose for her dogs, and bred them specifically for qualities needed in a seeing-eye dog. She had experience and a responsible plan. Heck, I wish the breeders of more AKC-recognized dogs were so careful. If every breeder of a Puggle (Pug/Beagle) and Shihpoo (Shih Tzu/Poodle) and Jug (Jack Russell/Pug) went into things with the same level of care and purpose, there wouldn't need to be any outrage.

Bottom line is that designer dogs are a puppy-millers *dream*.

Answer 3

"You never know, that Labradoodle 20 years down the road may be in Westminster and win BIS"

ROFLMAO!!!

Considering that all the 'breeders' of the 'poos' and 'oodles' are STILL at the F1 stage of breeding, they are no closer than they were 10 years ago. No standard and no purpose as well.

If you want to see a cross in the process of becoming an actual breed, read about the silken windhound (NOT to be confused with the long haired Whippet). That is a breed in progress, and the were past the F1 stage a long time ago!

Thanks for the laugh!!!


Well, if you NEVER move past an F1, you will NEVER get any closer establishing a breed. Seeing as they haven't BOTHERED moving past an F1 for all these years, I can't imagine they now suddenly would. If you don't understand basic genetic concepts, perhaps you should educate yourself before debating the subject.

And yes, the SW started with an F1, as did every breed, but notice I said STARTED, you have to breed ON!!!

I really don't know how I can make it any more simple.

" I am not closed minded as you seem to be. So they haven't moved passed F1."

Yea, STILL at STEP1! Not so much closed minded as in touch with REALITY!

"Maybe no one has been motivated enough to do so. Doesn't mean it won't happen, this is the point I am trying to get across"

Well, I guess ANYTHINGS possible, if you want to talk about slim to nothing odds. Nobody has been motivated in all the years they have been bred, but maybe suddenly, a bunch of dedicated, knowledgable dog people will decide they would LOVE to create a breed that is not needed and serves no purpose. *EXTREMELY* unlikely, but I guess there is always a one in a gazillion chance for ANYTHING!


Fairlyerica - That is true, she then dumped the breeding program and the ignorant started breeding them instead.

Answer 4

Something you might find educational: http://www.canismajor.com/dog/poodogs.html

Cockapoo 'breeders' have been telling people the AKC is going to recognize them as a breed 'any day now' for over 30+ years. It takes way more than simply putting 2 different breeds together, giving it a 'cutesy' name making a bogus registry to create a breed.

An interesting read on how it is done the right & serious way is to read the history of the Doberman Pinscher.

Answer 5

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Answer 6

All dogs are from a canid prototype animal. Through selective breeding, the separate breeds evolved.

Answer 7

true in fact the akc has a husky as a perbred but in fact it is a mutt. so yes i think and know that all dogs at one point were mutts

Answer 8

Most All Dogs are Grey wolfs. that's all they have in there DNA is Grey wolf.they were breed to be different types of dogs for many uses. people are constantly breeding different dogs to be another breed of dog.humans have been doing this for about fifteen thousand years.pretty amazeing to me how they did it.and why.

Answer 9

NO!!!!!!!!!
ABSOLUTELY **NOT***!!!!!
NOPE,uh uh & ....HEL* NO!!!

YOU are OBVIOUSLY a TOTAL idiot about ANY sort of pure bred animal!

*&* are DOUBTLESS *UN-EDUCABLE*
since you are FOOL enough to attempt defend that disgusting POS "labradoodle" SCAM!!!
NOT even in ***200*** YEARS,foo'.