User #62591 1282 posts
bitterbird
Whirlpool Enthusiast hey guys,
im looking for a new notebook, which will be used for basic office duties, and soem remote administration etc,
will there be much of a performance difference between a celeron m and a centrino?,
or is it only in high end graphics and gaming where the differences can be seen
do the additional costs of a centrino justify themselves in my case? anchor
posted 2006-Apr-27, 7pm AEST
User #85332 12102 posts
JasRulz
Whirlpool Forums Addict Centrino is a name used for a Intel Pentium M, chipset, and network card. So it isn't exactly a CPU.
The question is Pentium M vs. Celeron M
Answer: forum-replies.cfm?t=499949 anchor
posted 2006-Apr-27, 7pm AEST
edited 2006-Apr-27, 7pm AEST
User #39589 5625 posts
migoreng
Whirlpool Forums Addict a centrino is not a model of cpu like celeron,sempron,athlon etc..
centrino means
www.google.com.au/search...inition&ct=title
Centrino (also called Centrino Mobile Technology) is a marketing initiative from Intel for a particular combination of CPU, mainboard chipset and wireless network interface in the design of a laptop personal computer.
forum-replies.cfm?t=485653 anchor
posted 2006-Apr-27, 7pm AEST
edited 2006-Apr-27, 7pm AEST
User #30835 1337 posts
Moredhel
Whirlpool Enthusiast bitterbird writes...
will there be much of a performance difference between a celeron m and a centrino?,
for just normal office use you wont see too much difference
the pentium m is certainly a snappier processor,
far more responsive if you have say word, msn and firefox open
if you are just looking for something cheap that will do the job
get a celeron m with 512mb of ram, that should offset it being a slower processor anchor
posted 2006-Apr-27, 7pm AEST
User #39710 1955 posts
-FrutE-
Whirlpool Enthusiast JasRulz⢠writes...
The question is Pentium M vs. Celeron M
Pentium M wins hands down.
-F- anchor
posted 2006-Apr-27, 7pm AEST
User #109482 15 posts
Lister86
Participant As stated before, Centrino is not a processor but indicates the design for the laptop. The processor will be identical and the only thing most likely stopping it from being a Centrino is often the absence of wireless.
For Centrino the laptop must have:
1) Pentium M processor or Core Solo (or really any mobile Intel processor for that matter)
2) Certain Intel chipsets
3) Wireless Networking anchor
posted 2006-Apr-27, 7pm AEST
User #33124 15646 posts
BeeSA EVOLUTION
Whirlpool Forums Addict -FrutE- writes...
Pentium M wins hands down.
in terms of battery life
in terms of speed clock for clock the Celeron-M easily keeps up anchor
posted 2006-Apr-27, 8pm AEST
User #108312 50 posts
Mnke
Participant From what i read, celeron M is just pentium M without the power saving features. anchor
posted 2006-Apr-27, 8pm AEST
User #25145 822 posts
happychappy
Whirlpool Enthusiast Centrino is a brand that is designed to be synomymous with mobile computer and allows consumers to be more informed about their purchase. To qualify for the Intel Centrino brand, the notebook computer must include of Pentium M/Core Duo/Core Solo + Intel 855/915/945 Chipset + Intel PRO/Wireless 2200/2915/3945 WiFi.
The Celeron M is similar to the Pentium M. The difference is that the Celeron M has half the L2 Cache as the Pentium M (1MB vs 2MB on Dothan based CPUs) and that it lacks Intel Enhanced Speedstep Technology.
With Core Duo/Core Solo, the Celeron M cannot be compared as the former has dual cores, SSE3, further optimized power consumption and is based on a 65nm fabrication.
If you can afford it, go for a notebook with Intel Centrino Duo brand. If not, at least go for a Centrino Solo (single core). anchor
posted 2006-Apr-27, 8pm AEST
User #33124 15646 posts
BeeSA EVOLUTION
Whirlpool Forums Addict Mnke writes...
From what i read, celeron M is just pentium M without the power saving features.
pretty much
and as mentioned above
half the cache
which issnt too bad as 1M cache is still pretty good
i guess another downer is the limit the Celeron-M get to
if there were 2GHz Celeron-M
id consider them if they were correctly priced:P nice procs :P anchor
posted 2006-Apr-27, 9pm AEST
User #79809 1010 posts
CarAddict
Whirlpool Enthusiast Celeron M provide much better bang for the buck than Pentium M.
In my experience very similiar Notebooks with same clock speed processors, you generally pay in excess of $200 for privledge of Pentium M
Celeron M though has half the cache, which translates to a small performance hit.
Celeron M also does not have Speedstep technology. Which means less battery life. How much less depends on how much CPU is being used while on battery, not a huge difference either.
I've bought 2 x Celeron M notebooks in past few months. Just too good value compared to their Pentium M cousins. anchor
posted 2006-Apr-27, 9pm AEST
User #49348 1087 posts
King Yubbo
Whirlpool Enthusiast If you feel like you underclocking and changing voltages on your laptop to save battery, Centrino's are damn good. You can actually adjust the voltage of a 1.6Ghz Centrino to save battery using speedstep, and people have recorded 5 hr battery life times because of the tweak, having only 3 previously.
If you're into high-CPU intensive work, Centrino is the only way to go. I have a Celeron-M 1.4GHz. anchor
posted 2006-Apr-27, 9pm AEST
User #62591 1282 posts
bitterbird
Whirlpool Enthusiast can u still play movies on a celron M 1.4 or is it a bit slow etc anchor
posted 2006-May-2, 8pm AEST
User #59363 411 posts
mi5
Forum Regular I faced the similar question last August when comparing the Celeron M notebook with its Pentium M (Centrino) counterpart...the differences were -
1. 1mb vs 2mb L2 cache
2. 1.4ghz vs 1.4ghz (relevant to sheer processing power)
3. no speed step vs speed step (relevant to power consumption)
4. $1250 vs $1750
I went with the Celeron M becuase I read that for sheer processing power at the same CPU clock speed there isn't much difference. I get 2-3hrs battery, which is fine as I am never far from power.
I have 512mb (upgraded from 256mb, and play videos, music (iTunes) as well as use multiple apps all the time. These include - Macromedia Dreamweaver 8 and Fireworks 8, Firefox, Office2003, etc. Which is interesting since MM recommended minimum 1gb when using more than one of the Studio 8 apps at the same time.
Should say though, although I am more than happy, I am hanging out for the iBook replacement (MacBook) as I want to go back to Mac OS X, but still have ability to have WinXP via dual boot setup.
Cheers anchor
posted 2006-May-2, 10pm AEST
User #62591 1282 posts
bitterbird
Whirlpool Enthusiast cool, so they (celron M) do the job ok then anchor
posted 2006-May-3, 1pm AEST
User #13740 186 posts
Conroe2GoPlz
Forum Regular I have a Celeron M laptop (1.4GHz version), on SiSoft Sandra style tests (for what they are worth) it generally yields raw performance equal to around 65 to 75% of what my desktop Athlon XP 2600+ does. I would say its more than fast enough to play video, assuming you mean anything other than HD. My super-pi 1m scores were like 1 minute 1 sec for the laptop, my athlon XP 2600+ was 55 secs.
As others have said, don't be put off by the Celeron name. Like many I see Celeron and think 'no way!' but the Celeron M is pretty much just a bargain basement Pentium M - near identical performance for much less cost. I'm very happy with the performance of my 1.4 Celeron M and frankly, my parent's 1.73GHz Pentium M laptop doesn't seem any faster though it helps that my laptop is only powering a 1024x768 screen whereas there is 1680x1050 (and both use integrated 915 graphics).
Make sure you get a decent speed hard disk in your laptop (5400 or 7200 vs 4200) and you should be fine. Even 915 intel integrated graphics are Ok for basic gaming and most video tasks at a stretch.
PS this topic reminds me of a young woman on the bus last week, loudly chatting on the phone and trying to display her computer knowledge by telling her friend she needed a 'centrino processor' in her laptop.
edit: meant to say also, yeah, make sure you get 512Mb of RAM - I often run half a dozen explorer windows, ms word, ms excel and say MSN messenger or so and its very, very smooth. I have no problem playing various divx movies nor dvds. anchor
posted 2006-May-3, 4pm AEST
edited 2006-May-3, 4pm AEST
User #2914 2777 posts
doner kebab
Whirlpool Forums Addict The cache hit shouldnt impact it much, if anything noticable on most apps. Heck my personal notebook has 128kb cache (amd sempron). In my own little benchmark i tried one day, had the sempron go head to head with my work laptop 1.7ghz pentium M wiht its snazzy 2Meg l2 cache.
Basically involved converting a DVD video into xvid. 4gig of VOBs into 1x 700meg avi file.
Pentium-M took 1hr 40mins, sempron did it in just over 1hr.
SuperPi i think was faster in the pentium M.
Moral of the story, it depends on what your doing with it. Most apps should run the same with the celeron processor if its only got less L2 cache.
With teh speedstep, is there not a way to do it via software? I had a look at the speedstep and it appears to be just the lowering of the CPU clock multiplier.
For example, the pentium M on full speed is at x17 multiplier, under battery it drops to x6 multiplier. Using one of those software based overclocking tools, wouldnt it be possible to lower the multiplier (assuming the CPU isnt multiplier locked) to a lower value? If it is, we could in theory lower it to some insanely low speed such that have it humming on 100-200mhz...
What might get your goat is my AMD laptop with the sempron processor has the clock multiplier lowering feature, Intel Celeron dont, shame.... anchor
posted 2006-May-3, 4pm AEST
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