Why do many Muslims bring up European crusade but don't mention the Muslim crusades which started with Mohamma

Question

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It may surprise the reader that Muhammad was the first to launch a Crusade.

In October to December 630, after the conquest of Mecca in January 630, Muhammad launches a Crusade to Tabuk, a city in the north of Saudi Arabia today, but in the seventh century it was under the control of northern tribes. "Crusade" is the right word, because early Muslim sources say the army had 30,000 men and 10,000 horsemen and because Muhammad did so under the banner of Islam. On his way north, Muhammad extracts (or extorts) "agreements"—without provocation—from smaller Christian Arab tribes to pay the jizyah tax, instead of being attacked and killed (a jizya tax is exacted from non-Muslims for the "privilege" of living under Islam; see Sura 9:29). They also had the option to convert, but most do not and agree, rather, to pay the tax.

Answer 1

Well said, thank you for posting that. The "Crusades" that folks love to bring up and throw in the face of christians is actually in response to muslims invading holy land, taking over and not allowing access of christians or jews to holy land. They killed and stole and converted by the sword. Christians responded and like now....it gets turned around...again. Well said.

Answer 2

The battled occured because the Byzantine Emperior were
comspring with the Northen tribes to launch an attack against Muslims. Prophet Muhammad had many treaties with pro-Byzantine tribes. However, due to a pending attack there was a war. The total causalities on both sides 1018. Compared to the European crusade that involed innocent women, children, and the elderly total well over 100,000 people were killed. Comparing them, what a big difference.

Answer 3

I don't understand why it is necessary to point fingers at all. The crusades were a very dark time where BOTH Christians and Muslims behaved in a way that was unbecoming of their faith. I say we focus on keeping our minds unified so that nothing of that magnitude is ever repeated.

Blessed Be

Answer 4

First I would like to tell you to get your facts from a site that knows what they are talking about. answering-islam.com is a Chritsian run site and they have been proven time and time again to put out nothing but false statements against Islam. I found this on wikipedia, and online encyclopedia so you need to check things out before you sound stupid.

Battle of Tabouk
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The Battle of Tabouk (also called the Battle of Tabuk) took place in October AD 630. According to Islamic sources the followers of Muhammad were heavily outnumbered by the army of the Byzantine Empire. Tabouk is in present-day northwestern Saudi Arabia.

The battle of Tabouk took place in the 9th year of the Muslim calendar. According to the Ar-raheeq Al-makhtum, an Arabic historiographical work, Heraclius, then Emperor of the Byzantine empire, had decided that reducing the growing Muslim power had become an urgent necessity and the conquest of Arabia should, in his opinion, be achieved before the Muslims became too powerful to conquer and raise troubles and unrest in the adjacent Arab territories. According to the Muslim accounts, the Byzantine Emperor mustered a huge army of Byzantine soldiers and pro-Roman Ghassanid tribes to launch a decisive military attack against the Muslims.

A magnified rumour of the danger threatening Muslim life was carried to Makkah by some Nabateans who traded from Syria to Medina. They carried rumours of Heraclius' preparations and the existence of an enormous army said to number anywhere from forty thousand to several hundred thousand besides the Lukham, Judham and other tribes allied to the Byzantines.

Muhammad thought that if he tarried or dealt passively with the situation the Byzantines would be able to invade the Muslim-controlled provinces and even get as far as Madinah. This would create the most awful impression of Islam among newly conquered tribes as well as of the Muslims' military credibility.

When Muhammad had made up his mind and took his final decision, he ordered some of his companions to get ready for war and sent for the Meccans and the other Arab tribes asking for their assistance he left his Cousin/companion Ali to govern the city in his absence.

Muhammad marched northwards to Tabouk. The army that numbered thirty thousand fighters was a great one, when compared with the previous armies of Islam. Muslims had never marched with such a great number before.

After arriving at Tabouk and camping there, the muslim army was ready to face the enemy. However there was no Byzantine Army to be seen. According to Muslim histories, upon learning of the Muslims' march the Byzantines and their allies were so terrified that none of them dared set foot out to fight. On the contrary they scattered inside their territory.

It is sometimes claimed that this "battle" brought, in itself, credit to the Muslim forces that had gained military reputation in the remote lands of the Arabian Peninsula.

The only gain that the Muslims made was after they threated locals Arab tribes. The head of the Ailah, Yahna bin Rawbah came to Muhammad and made peace with him and paid him the jizyah as tribute. Both the Jarba'and Adhruh peoples paid him tribute as well.

Muhammad gave each tribe a letter of guarantee, similar to Yahna's, in which Arab histories claim he said:

In the Name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.

This is a guarantee of protection from Muhammad to Yahna bin Rawbah and the people of Allah; their ships, their caravans on the land and sea shall have custody of Muhammad , he and whosoever are with him of Ash-Sham people and those of the sea. Whosoever contravenes this treaty , his wealth shall not save him; it shal be the fair prize if him that takes it. Now it should not be lawful to hinder the men from any springs which they have been in the habit of frequenting, nr from any journeys they desire to make, whether by sea or by land.

The tribes, who used to ally the Byzantines, became certain that their dependence on their former allies had come to an end. Therefore they turned to the Muslims. The Islamic state had therefore enlarged its borders to an extent that it touched the Byzantine borders.

Answer 5

the city of Tabuk was an ARABIC city in an ARABIC land occupied by the Romans. therefore Muslims went to liberate their fellow Arabs and invite them to Islam. they faught the Romans not the Arabs.
and it was NOTHING like the crusades pal. your fellow crusaders wiped out entire inhabitants of cities. it was said that the streets of Jerusalem were flooded with blood as high as your knees.

they killed every man, woman and child they came across. show me how the battle of Tabuk is any comparison to your barbaric crusades..

i'll be waiting.

Answer 6

lol this had nothing to do with the true Crusades. It is just another way to say something bad about Islam and Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

Stop spreading propaganda

Answer 7

I think Jesus said it best when He said about taking the log out of your own eye before worrying about the speck in your brothers.

Answer 8

I don't believe there will ever be peace with that religion.
it is a religion of war from its earliest beginnings and look at the wars it is causing all over the world. It was from an evil seed.
The son of a slave girl.

Answer 9

An excellent point. And yet those bloodthirsty savages still claim that THEY are the victims.

Answer 10

Because they don't want to face up to the fact that they've done some wrong too. They just want to be the victims to further their cause.