Did Jesus die willingly or was he killed by the Romans?

Question

If it was the Romans, then he didn't die for us at all, he was already going to be put to death. So it was like, "I'm going to die anyway, so I might as well say it is for all humanity for the prestige".

If he gathered a bunch of people than said I'm going to die for you, then maybe I'd be impressed.

Thoughts?

(Oh, and please do not use the God "allowed" him to die excuse).

Answer 1

Whether he was willing to die or not is not really the issue. I don't think he had much choice in the matter. The Romans wanted to kill him, and they did. However, this helped turn him into the myth that he is today.

Answer 2

The Jewish priest and the head of the church was pissed at Jesus. They wanted him out of the way. They sucker the Roman ruler of ther area, Pontious Pilate to try and execute him. Even Pilote did not have a valid reason to execute him.

It would be like Jesus coming back today, telling the pope and the world that ALL religion is evil except for...let's say...Jehovah's Witnesses. This would really tick off 99% of the world's population...well that's what he did back then, The priest and the church was corrupt and he was making that known. So in reality, it was the religeous leaders of that time that wanted him done in.

Pilate asked, do you want to let Barabas free, who apparently was a murderer, etc. or Jesus. One thing that many back then did not like about Jesus was that he was the king of the Jews and the Jews did not want some poor carpenters son, they wanted what they believe to be was a real rich and powerful king. They did not realize that wealth to Jesus was to get closer and be respectful to his father, monitary means meant nothing to him.

As for the reason of his death. He was a perfect human being, like Adam, until Adam made a mess of things. He died so that those that believed in him and his father, may have everlasting life on earth. So to answer your question, he willingly gave his life so that all of us have a chance of everlasting life. He was that perfect human to replace the initial perfect human, i.e., Adam.

Answer 3

Jesus Christ died willingly at the hands of the Romans. He had many opportunities to say that he was sorry and he meant something different or that they had the wrong one. But he didn't lie. He said he was Jesus of Nazareth and when asked if He was the Messiah he boldly said "I AM" knowing fully that it would result in death. Even when brought before Pontius Pilate he didn't deny it and told the Truth. He was brutally beaten and crucified. He had told his disciples before that the Son of Man would be taken and killed but the disciples didn't understand. His main message and his reason that He came from God was to become a lowly human and suffer so much willingly for us so that sin could be conquered and all humanity saved.

Answer 4

Jesus left Heaven, to come to earth and SACRIFICE himself for our sins. He prayed in the garden to God His Father, That if there were any other way Please take this cup from me, thy will be done.
Jesus could have called 10,000 angels and not suffered the awful death of crucifiction but he didn't.

The world became darkened as Christ bore our sins on the cross.

Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour
Matthew 27:50 Jesus when he had cried again in a loud voice yielded up the ghost.
vs.51 the temple split from top to bottom and the earth did quake and the rocks rent...
vs.54... Truly this was the Son of God.

Answer 5

he was forced according to the bible.

In the case of Matthew who was probably hostile to the Jews for rejecting Jesus, that message was "The Jews are evil." According to John Dominic Crossan in his book Who Killed Jesus? the Gospel of Peter came before the Gospel of Matthew and was much more favorable to the Jews. One example given by Dr. Crossan to illustrated this is passages in both Peter and Matthew about the resurrection of Jesus. According to Peter (11:45-47) the Jewish Authorities who were responsible for the death of Jesus were afraid that if the Jewish masses found out that he was really the son of God they would stone them. In Peter's case the Jewish masses were the good guys and the Jewish authorities were the bad guys. According to Matthew (28:11-15) the Jewish authorities and the Jewish people are equally to blame. Dr. Crossan writes:

That explains every change in his story. He does not mind describing the authorities as culpable. but there will be no hint that the people are almost innocent. There will be no Jewish authorities present at the tomb, nor will any resurrection take place before their eyes. Hence there is nothing at all about them fearing their own people. And because Pilate is not present to command Roman soldiers into silence, bribery and the promise of protection must suffice. Every difference in Matthew can be explained as a necessary result of not wanting to have the people of the Jews innocent through ignorance and deceived by their own authorities who actually know the truth.

Matthew is also the only Gospel in which the Jewish masses tell Pontius Pilate that Jesus's blood should be on them and on their children. This is surely a manifestation of Matthew's hatred of Jews.

Answer 6

Yes.

While I really don't know (I wasn't there), a reading of the canonize gospels imply yes: He willingly got in the position of being killed (or put in a 3 day limbo) by the Romans.

Answer 7

Domino,
That's an honest question. The answer involves history and theology. In a way, you could say that it was some of the religious Jewish leaders at the time who were the catalysts to his death. When Jesus was before Pilate, he could find no fault in Jesus, but the people yelled "Crucify him!" The 27th chapter of the book of Matthew in the New Testament explains this. So in a way, the religious leaders could be seen as the catalysts, but then the Romans took over and took care of it. They actually crucified Jesus.

But the crucifixion of Jesus is much more than history that is told and retold. The very first time the name of Jesus is mentioned in the New Testament, it announced what it purpose was--to "save the people from their sins."

In the book of John chapter 10, verse14-18, Jesus said, " “I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me — 15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father — and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. 17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life — only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”

All throughout the New Testament Jesus predicts that he will die. He wanted to die, because this was the only way that he could bring forgiveness to anyone who believes in him.

I know that's probably much more than you wanted to hear, but there it is.

I hope it's helpful to you. Let me know what you think.
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Answer 8

The man now known as Jesus was hung by the Romans for preaching anti political anti-Roman beliefs. And soon after the tree was replaced by the cross (Egyptian symbol for peace and passage) and then his story of sacrifice becomes a story of sacrifice for all mankind not just the locals of the region. So yes the Romans killed our beloved and yes he stood fast to be captured. But lets not forget this! "You will deny me three times before the crack of dawn" Hmmmm.......

Answer 9

Jesus went to the cross willingly
In Matthew 26:53 Or do you think that I cannot call on my Father, and that he would send me more than twelve legions of angels right now?

Answer 10

i think that jesus was a mortal man and everybody said he died for us because he had a strong following. if you werer a dedicated gang member and your leader got killed in a drive by shooting, you would say that he died for all of us so that we may continue on. i bet jesus's followers didnt take his execution lying down. there was probably a major uproar after the lynching but that would be too gruesome to print in the bible. the romans were pissed off at jesus because people were starting to believ him and not them. but they couldnt go around killing his followers. that would make them look bad, so they just took jesus instead. he was after all the cause of their misery. so after many attempts at trying to shut him up, they finally said **** the dumb ****, lets just kill this guy. then they made a theatrical performance by making him drag that cross through the city so all could see. they made sure that everybody got the picture that no man shall ever make the Roman Empire look like fools ever again.