THE BIBLE -- RELIC, ANTI-SEX HANDBOOK OR X-RATED READING?
L. William Countryman prefaces his book Dirt, Greed and Sex with the following comment:
Controversy over sexual ethics have pervaded the Western world in our century, and the Bible has been an important factor in them. Some voices invoke its authority; others attack it as a baleful influence. Some hold that it lays down a clear-cut sexual ethic; others hear in it a multiplicity of messages not always in agreement with one another. Whichever may ultimately be right, we have at least learned that interpreters of Scripture do not all agree with one another and that people can invoke the Bible on behalf of a variety of contemporary ethical positions. Such a situation calls for a fresh and careful reading of the Scriptures. . . . I began looking into the Biblical texts on this subject [sex] with several quite definite presuppositions. . . . I expected to find no more than scattered and independent moral pronouncements on sexual issues. . . . [and] that the biblical authors as a whole were negative toward sex and regarded it as something to be avoided in general and indulged, reluctantly, only under narrowly defined circumstances. In both cases, I have found that close study of these texts has modified my understanding of the matter sharply and in directions that I could not have predicted (Countryman, 1988: 1).
Many Christians are tempted to abandon their confidence in the Bible because they don't see how it can or does apply to "real" life in our times. David Brandt Berg was firmly convinced that the Scriptures can be just as alive, joyful, liberating, meaningful and applicable in today's world as they have ever been, and that the universal principles set down in God's Word will most certainly survive this present troubled world. Part of the mission of the Family has been to help others rediscover that wonderful path to Jesus, joy and freedom that is laid down in the Scriptures.
Many liberal theologians suggest we now set aside our Bibles as antiquated artifacts, no longer needed in the present stage of human spirituality. The very liberal Bishop Spong is known for making some very strong pronouncements about the Bible's validity, or lack of it, in today's world. Still, although critical of anyone taking too literal an interpretation or application of Scripture--which he believes needs to be considered more in the context of the time in which they were written--he still admits that for Christianity to survive, somehow our perception of Scripture and our human sexuality need to be brought more into perceivable harmony, for a house divided against itself simply cannot stand.I do believe that there is a spirit beneath the letter that brings the Bible forward in time with integrity. That spirit must be sought with diligence. Without it the Bible will not be for our times a source of life or a guide in the area of sexual ethics (attributed to Bishop Spong).
CONCLUSION
Is sexual repression one reason why so many Christians are "falling away" from traditional churches? Are people finding sexual and spiritual fulfillment more attractive outside mainstream Christianity and finding themselves more and more in conflict with church teachings and traditions? Are they distancing themselves from what they perceive as aging Christian institutions?Catholic priests McMahon and Campbel argue that for spirituality to be authentic and conducive to personal growth it must be firmly anchored in our bodily existence:
Our experience as two Catholic priest-psychologists active in ministry for nearly twenty-five years leads us to recognize that a significant number of those drifting away from institutional churches are responsible, mature, and developing adults. They are by no means self-indulgent individuals looking for an excuse to live a licentious life. In far too many instances, these are people who are profoundly concerned about spiritual matters, and who are totally undernourished by their church and therefore look elsewhere for resources to support growth (cited in Feuerstein, 1989: 55).Bishop Spong puts forth the following provocative thoughts in his book, Beyond Moralism:
Many troubled people find healing, loving alternatives that are clearly short of the ideal but also short of the immoral. Life conspires to move us all out of a moralistic legalism into more loving and compassionate attempts to discover the best alternatives for both the individual and the community in a broken, imperfect world. It is our conviction that Christianity itself compels us to reject any rigid system that applies rules indiscriminately to human beings. No one would distribute shoes to people without first checking for size. Surely the moral code whose purpose it is to support and improve life can not be dispensed without a similar size and fit.Christianity can be separated from the repressive legalism of yesterday, a legalism that is neither biblical nor essential in the realities of the twentieth century. Christianity, however, does have standards and norms that need to be heard in the midst of the hedonistic revolution of today. These principles are not so crisp or clear as the old prohibitions, but they are more loving and do spring from the sacredness of human life.
"Ye shall not commit adultery." This ancient commandment invites us to look at the depth of personhood, the depth of relationships, the sacredness of bodies, the fact that sex is powerful, and then decide how love, life, and being can be expressed so as to glorify the Creator in the sexual acts of the creature. Christians of the twentieth century are called to bear witness in word and deed in the arena of human sexuality (Spong, 1986: 106). (Emphasis added.)
Although the Family would not fully agree with all aspects of the sweeping sexual tolerance embraced by Bishop Spong and many other sexually liberal theologians, we can agree on the universal need for Christianity to make more loving moves forward in restoring sex to its rightful place of celebration, respect, testimony, joy and pleasure in Christian life. For nearly three decades our Christian missionary movement has not only carried the message of God's love and salvation through Jesus into all the world but we have also encouraged our fellow Christians to re-evaluate their attitudes towards sexuality. Our Family has weathered many storms of criticism and persecution arising from our sex-affirmative approach to life in the context of Christian growth and spiritual development.As a member of the Family I strongly affirm the wonderful and needed place Scripture has in my life. Although certain Scriptures do seem to appear sexually restrictive, I believe that a comprehensive study of Scripture allows much greater sexual freedoms than traditional Christian sexual customs seem to permit. I would never suggest that the Scriptures must now be tossed aside as irreconcilable with present sexual realities, or as irrelevant and a hindrance to the dawning of a new liberating Christian sexual era. To presume in this most critical moment in Christian history that we have outgrown the need for the Bible, God's recorded words of guidance, I would consider total folly. I firmly believe that Christian sexuality and Scripture will yet join together in the wonderful unity and celebration God intended.Dr. L. William Countryman in his book Dirt, Greed & Sex: Sexual Ethics in the New Testament and Their Implications for Today, carefully examines all the things he felt the sexual ethic of the New Testament seems to forbid. Still he does attempt to have us look at these in a whole new context. I will leave you with his well-balanced concluding remarks, made after a most exhaustive study of the matter.The Bible takes sex more or less for granted and does not explicitly lay out a theology or philosophical understanding of it.The New Testament's positive account of sex is that it is an integral part of the human person, particularly joining us to one another, and therefore has a right to be included in the spiritual transformation which follows upon our hearing of the gospel. The gospel, as it permeates every aspect of life, will and must permeate sexuality as well. If Christian teaching appears to flinch from sex, as something dirty or suspect, it is falsely Christian. . . . Sexuality, like every other aspect of human life, should be related to the center goal of that life, the reign of God.Sex, therefore, is to be received with delight and thankfulness. It is a gift of God in creation which reflects for us the joy of God's self-giving in grace and the perfect openness of true human life in the age to come.If I make satisfaction of sexual desire the overarching goal of my life, I have put the part in place of the whole and thereby lost perspective on its real value. . . . Sex is not the final goal of the creation.The world begins in God's free act of creation and concludes in God's free act of grace--or rather in the rejoicing to which it gives rise. Prudery, narrowness, self-confident respectability will be no preparation for the life of the age of rejoicing. It is not surprising that Jesus alienated those who practiced such "virtues."
As marriage and family could not be the final goal for the first-century Christian, sexuality and self cannot be today. The Christian will find it very difficult to live in an intimate relation with one who does not understand or accept the kind of demands which God's calling makes. . . . The Christian must also retain a certain freedom to respond to God's call loyally in critical times.
The measure of a sexuality that accords with the New Testament is simply this: the degree to which it rejoices in the whole creation, in what is given to others as well as to each of us, while enabling us always to leave the final word to God, who is the Beginning and End of all things (Countryman, 1988: 265-267).
Sex is created and commanded by God for your enjoyment, unity, fellowship, procreation, and a type of His own relationship with us in the Spirit. God uses sex as a tool to keep man and woman together in beautiful harmony and having children and families and a happy, loving home. He wants you to have sex not only for your own physical enjoyment and satisfaction, but also to produce human beings, immortal souls for the Kingdom of God!
God in His wisdom has created this sexual union, this husband and wife relationship, this lover and loved intercourse to be a marvelous picture, an illustration in the physical of your spiritual relationship with Him and your union with your Heavenly Bridegroom. The sexual relationships and its fruits are symbolic of His own holy relationships with us, His Bride. He blessed it, empowered it, used it, and referred to it constantly throughout His Word as the greatest physical experience and relationship of man and woman with the most essential results: Procreation of the race!Sex is the greatest proof of Love and God's existence, and the greatest loving experience that creates new life and new immortal souls for the Eternal Kingdom of God!--by David Brandt Berg (compiled quotes, Daily Might 2:196). = D
Do I think there is sex in heaven? Sure why not!
2006-12-03 07:27:23
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answered by one 4
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Yes, sex is sin if its only used for pleasure. Sex should only be take place when there is a need, as you mentioned for multiplying. God didn't ask anyone to have sex, if some people think it that way, then there is a serious problem in their morality and character.
Having sex for pleasure of senses is sin. If a personal is spiritual s/he can realize this without asking anyone. And No, if there is a heaven somewhere, then I strongly believe there should not be any sex there, otherwise that place would be considered as hell.
If you compare the life of kid and an adult and see who seems more pure and happiner; definitely your answer will be kid, kids are free from sex and hence sharper and happier then adults. When there are impure thoughts might is blocked and personality deteorate and mind becomes weaker enough to commit any wrong act and that time use God as an excuse.
The mid has to be extremely open and free to realize the difference between manmade and Godmade things.
One more question for you? can you see God? If not why? Id he has blessed people for having sex, then he should me visible to anyone and everyone.
2006-12-02 08:46:27
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answered by Just4YA 2
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I understand you're not Christian and yo probably know nothing about Christianity but Dude, next time check your facts before posting a question like this.
#1. We don't think sex was made by the devil. I guess some might act that way, but it's having sex before you're married that's a sin. Sex is a sacred thing that exists to make life not for pleasure. Exactly what Gensis is saying.
#2. No there isn't sex in heaven. There's no need for it since no one is gonna die there and they're just spirits.
2006-12-02 08:44:04
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answered by addict for dramatic 4
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This is one of many reasons I became a Druid. We cherish the gifts the spiritual forces behind nature bestowed upon us. We have no problems exploring the darkest depths of our sensuality and sexuality. The women I feel are more free-spirited with their sexuality in the Pagan religions, at least in Wicca and Druidry. The female body was a gift bestowed upon them by the Goddess herself, and the males inherited the form of the God. Such beauty was meant to be enjoyed, not give people feelings of guilt over. I've come to hold a high respect and attraction to the women of the Pagan faiths. They don't look at their bodies and sexuality and view them as sins or as some product of an evil force. They cherish the gift they have and show no shame in such a gift.
Anyways, I'm sort of just rambling here, so I'll shush and go answer another question.
2006-12-02 08:51:42
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answered by lavos1412 3
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if any christian should say sex is sin then he lack understanding. No true christian hate sex, infact i love sex. What true christians hate is immoral sex. God said if two sleep they shall get warm. Legal married people are free to enjoy it well. Sexual desire and capacity normally awaken and grow during the teen-age years. So throughout history many young persons have had sexual intercourse before marriage. (Genesis 34:1-4) But in recent years premarital sex has become increasingly common. In some places it is almost the general rule. Why?
One reason for the increase in premarital sex relates to the publicity given to sex in motion pictures and popular novels. Many young persons are curious, they ‘want to see what it is like.’ This, in turn, creates peer pressure and influences others to conform. As sex before marriage and sex without marriage have become widespread
2006-12-02 08:48:56
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answered by philip d 2
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Good point God did invent sex BUT HE DID NOT INVENT LUST, that is different, sex is for married folks, lust is wanting the sex only, marrage is a relationship Adam and Eve sinned when God was of less importance than the mate, marrage is a THREE way relationship, man and God, and the woman, Woman, God and the man, NOT just man and woman With out God, God is the glue that hold it together, hay free bible lessons www.itiswritten.com visit for bible questions www.bibleinfo.com hay visit A Seventh Day Adventist Church in your area on Sabbath [satuday is the seventh day sabbath sunday has never been called holy or the sabbath in all the bible] talk to me also EMAIL wgr88@yahoo.com God bless
2006-12-02 08:42:50
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answered by wgr88 6
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I am LDS and I can tell you what I believe:
#1 - First of all, I believe God gave us that gift for two purposes: to create life and to express love to our spouse.
Sex is sinful IF it is not between husband and wife. That gift is for us as married couples, period. But of course we all have our agency and when people abuse that gift, that is where the sin comes in...think about it, how much better of a world would it be if everyone applied those two purposes of sex with their spouse (and ONLY their spouse)..no unwanted babies, no rape, no pornography, no forms of sexual abuse, etc.
#2 - Yes, most definitly BUT only in the Celestial Kingdom. Those who attain the highest degree of glory, who have entered in to the new & everlasting covenant of marriage, will be the only ones "having sex" and a chance for progression of the family unit. Inhabitants of the Terrestrial and Telestial Kingdoms who had marriages on earth will not be in force there, they will have no chance for eternal progression.
Sex is NOT a sin when practiced the way God intended.
2006-12-02 09:04:38
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answered by Anonymous
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You are another one that generalizes.Not all Christians hate sex and call it a sin.Far from it but I don't believe there will be sex in heaven because it was meant for pleasure and pro- creation here on earth.
I really wish people would not put different groups of anything all into the same category.
2006-12-02 08:49:11
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answered by tea cup 5
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What happened is that the jewish tribes wanted to divinely mandate procreative sex in order to increase their numbers. From this we get all the weird stuff in Leviticus against homosexuality and all the weird restrictions on sex. Since Judaism becomes the basis for Christianity, this mindset is spread (even Saul of Tarsus's [Paul] letters are included in the bible which reflect an unhealthy sexual attitude).
2006-12-02 08:40:28
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answered by Anonymous
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Sex is not a sin, dear. Sexual immorality is a sin - fornication, adultry, homosexuality, incest, rape. These serve no purpose in God's creations.
In your reference, God was talking to Adam & Eve, was He not? There may have been no ceremony, but it's a safe bet they were "married" (committed, monogomous, completed with God).
Sex outside marriage has detrimental results for all involved. Just ask people that have not saved themselves for marriage.
As for "sex" in Heaven? There's no evidence that there will be - again, it would serve no purpose. Procreation would begin, again, the neccesity of salvation.
2006-12-02 09:02:27
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answered by azar_and_bath 4
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Sex was ordained for Mankind, ONLY IN THE MARRIAGE context, and yet Sex outside of Marriage, is touted as the Absolute by the World!
And there will be no sex or marriage in heaven.
(Matthew 22:28-29-30) Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
(Mat 22:29) Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
(Mat 22:30) For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Thanks, RR
2006-12-02 08:46:02
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answered by Anonymous
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