only have book and head knowledge on the subject that requires spirit and heart knowledge for understanding?
2006-12-02 04:47:28 · 22 answers · asked by ? 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Yes, in order for anyone to be taken seriously about some topics there would be no doubt.
I mean, is Jesus the son of God? To a believer, yes. A non-believers it is, no. This is a disagreement of faith.
However, a discussion about the meaning of the Sabbath or of creation could be argued based on the content at times as well.
The greek Logos, is the Word. John calls Jesus this in his gospel. Therefore, whenever I talk with anyone about anything. I concern myself more with whether or not it is logical, true, just, and wise, than I do anything else regardless of the disposition of a person I am speaking with. Remember, even the devil believes, knows the word and can transform himself into an angel of light. So that might not always be a pre-requisite for recognizing truth. However, I think a persons faith, if it can be associated with a group or common disposition or not, is a prudent consideration on issues.
2006-12-02 04:59:58 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Requiring "faith knowledge" or "spirit knowledge" commits the fallacy known as Begging the Question. If you only accept someone has having such knowledge, and thus as being credible, if they "know" God and therefore believe that your god exists, then what you're saying is that you only consider someone credible if they already agree with you.
Would you accept it if an atheist said "you're not credible if you believe in superstitious nonsense like gods." Of course not. Why? Because it's rude, arrogant, and a fallacy to demand that someone agree with you before accepting that they might have something credible, reasonable or justified to say on a subject. Such an atheist is saying that they have nothing to learn from you, that they already know all they need, and that they aren't interested in the possibility of seeing something new.
Well, a theist is basically saying the same in the reverse situation. I'd say: the person who rejects the all ideas except those which already agree with them is the one who isn't credible because they act like they are afraid of hearing something uncomfortable, or perhaps learning something new.
2006-12-02 13:04:36 · answer #2 · answered by John S 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
And can believers be taken seriously when they make a distinction between head knowledge and heart knowledge? Or when they talk about a spirit?
Yes, non-believers can be taken seriously because many of them have been through the indoctrination of religion and have managed to untangle themselves from it. They often speak from experience about the harms of the religious viewpoint.
2006-12-02 12:52:02 · answer #3 · answered by mathematician 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
I don't understand what you mean by "spirit and heart knowledge". A person of a totally different religion would probably claim to possess that same thing -- how do I know who's got it right? Give me "head knowledge" any day.
2006-12-02 12:55:15 · answer #4 · answered by . 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I think they can be taken seriously, but not expected to understand the things of the heart and spirit. Mainly a non-believer is a real eye-opening skeptic who, if you hang around them long enough, will make you see just how hypocritical Christians can be. It really helps you grow as a Christian, because then you see areas of your life that you didn't even think were a stumbling block for non-believers.
2006-12-02 12:53:50 · answer #5 · answered by Nathan 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Taken seriously about what? This question can go in many different paths or directions. All people believe in something whether they say so or not. Some make Education thier god, some believe in themselves saying their is no God making themselves to be the master and lord over their own lives(until an appointed time. As for those that have been down that path before as one preson replied, I wonder what path they actually took. How far down the path did they go before decided for themselves that there is no God? Did they really believe there was a God? Were they really searhing for themselves? Or was it because they felt pressured to go to church or maybe even forced by family members?
The path of rightousness does not change. God never told any Christian to kill their baby. He specifically said THOU SHALL NOT KILL......therefore makng anyone who says, God told them to kill someone or anyone(to include abortion) is not recieving this message from God.
2006-12-02 13:00:58 · answer #6 · answered by game starved 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't take them seriously when the only reason they turned their back on God is because of the flaws in the Bible and with organized religion in general. That seems to be the case most of the time. God did not write the Bible, there are more religions out there than Christianity, and you can't blame God for the actions of certain corrupt men who twisted religion for their own purposes. If the Bible is the only reason they became Atheists, then they are subject to the same brainwashing they accuse believers of and they are not thinking for themselves.
2006-12-02 12:54:24 · answer #7 · answered by James P 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Information that comes from your heart is feeling. Information that comes from your brain is knowledge. That there book and head stuff, I ain't got none of that interest in them thar things.
Hey wait, I just read BosphorusBabe's comment up above. Two votes for apes, zero for mud!
Apes trump mud! That's just the best thing I've read on this whole damn site. I'm going to put that on a t-shirt.
2006-12-02 12:52:39 · answer #8 · answered by blondes tease, brunettes please 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Please stand by 4 a serious moment from fat-chic...
OMGOSH! That is the most profound statement I have ever read on this site...and no I am not being sarcastic as I usually am. God is not proven in books or facts. It is totally an emotional heart thing. God will always be subjective..not objective in nature. So we are all wasting our time debating whether he exsist ..God wins hearts first than minds.
2006-12-02 12:55:15 · answer #9 · answered by Fat-Chic 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
we can still feel love and hate, we have friends and family close to us and we have morals. it's just we don't attribute them to a god or religion, we believe in more "natural" causes for them rather than supernatural. We're not a different species, just have a different oppinion. And i think if you don't want to listen to what we have to say your beleifs give you a much neater way of burying your head in the sand than that excuse. Your Bible does give you the right to ignore "unbeleivers" but if you choose not to ignore us don't disqualify our words.
I have a lot more respect for the christians that listen to us and think about the other oppinions in the world and stay christian rather than the ones that won't listen or think we are stupid, unqualified or damned.
2006-12-02 12:54:35 · answer #10 · answered by jleslie4585 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋