He is already on the fourth stage, according to the doctors.
When he first discovered he had cancer of the pancreas, he was advised to go for organic food treatment, instead of chemotherapy.
After 8 months of organic food diet , the latest checkup showed that the cancer had spread and he is now at the fourth stage of the disease.
He is now very discouraged and have lost the will the live.
He told my wife he wants the Lord to take him home soon as the pain is unbearable .
He suffers extreme pain on his back every night at about 3am till the next morning. I can understand how difficult it is for him.
Apart from encouraging him and being with him, what else can I do to help in practical ways ?
Do you know of anyone who has recovered from cancer at the fourth stage ?
2006-12-02 03:51:33 · 14 answers · asked by Toshihiro 3 in Health ➔ Diseases & Conditions ➔ Cancer
I'm SO sorry for your situation. And I have one suggestion, but no happy news. My own husband died at age 55 of pancreatic cancer this February 22 2006 at 8:14 am. Once diagnosed it is in it's advanced stage and the harsh, direct truth is there is no long life for your brother in law. I do energy healing. I don't do it for pay. I just found out I could do it and studied up on the internet. and I just do it. Pancreatic cancer is the most painful type. BUT for 5 out of his 8 months (241 days, the average, he lived exactly 241 days) he HAD NO PAIN, HE did not need the oxycontin, oxycodone etc. he was a non believer until it worked on him. Simply put, clap your hands together, rub them like they are cold, put them palm side up. ask God (if you believe in god, ask the universal wisdom if you don't ) to help you, guide you, and bring healing energy from the universe through your hands to create healing and pain relief. Put one hand on his tummy, one on his back and imagine golden light , beams, a haze, whatever works for you, passing back and forth. His wife/partner can do it too. anyone can do it. it's like the power of prayer that has been proven to be healing. Now, I'm not saying he is going to be 'healed' , he is not. Do it a couple of times a day, for 10, 20, 30 minutes at a time. My husband couldn't sit sometimes, so I'd cuddle him from behind at bedtime (spoon position) and put my hands on his mid section. Please don't 'dis' this response, because it can really work, I'm a little spacy, but I"m not a nut!!! I'm willing to talk to you in person, or email, or you can call me, .
The back pain is a natural progression. the nerves from the pancras extend around to the back. so the pain can come from the pancreas or the cancer could also be attached to those nerves. a 'celiac block' I think it is called can help a lot. but the side effects are diarreah, every treatment gives you that.
I encourage you, if you already have not done it, to get HOSPICE in there asap. they provide great meds, support for the whole family, equipment, etc. We didn't use the equipment as intended, in the last few weeks Lee got really restless (a sign the end is near) and would get out of bed to toilet. but no strength to get back, or he'd fall. I ended up using the 4-leg cane plus my own office chair with wheels to get him up and wheel him back to bed.
8 months, is pretty good, sad to say. good for the organic diet. but we went chemo and still got 8 months. It gets into the liver and that eventually shuts down, sorry to say. Also sorry to say you can't survive stage 4 pan.can. Live every day the best you can. Make every day count. Say what you need to say. Get stronger meds, like i said, hospice can get you morphine. ask about the celiac block, and for goodness sake, try the hands on healing. If you go to church, ask if there is anyone who does 'laying on of hands', look at your local natural food store for people who post that they do 'reiki' or energy work. If I was close to you, I'd do it for the cost of my gas. heck, maybe I am close to you!! THis is a sucky disease, and I am so sorry when I hear of anyone else who has it. oh, one more thing, if he takes any over the counter meds, it should NEVER be tylenol or Ibuprophin (sp?) because these both affect the liver. Alleve was the only one reccomended by my husbands oncologist. Oh yeah, and you can look into 'pancrease' a pancreatic enzyme, helps to digest food.. may be too late for that though? Eggs were the only food my husband could reliably keep down. so try no fat, nocheese omlettes or scrambled eggs for kee ping weight up. God Bless and good luck
lavender gal 9958 at ya hoo dot com (all together!!!)
2006-12-02 04:34:12 · answer #1 · answered by git along gal 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
If his colon was removed the doctors know it is a colon primary and it did not spread to the colon from the pancreas as another answerer suggested. You are not giving enough information for me to know the stage so I will explain what the possibilities are or someone will, and probably should, ask his doctor. If they are recommending chemo there is lymph node involvement, making it at least a stage IIIA and could be as high as a IIIC, provided there are no other organs involved and there are no distant (non-pericolic) lymph nodes involved. If either of these are present it is a stage IV. Therefore, if they find his colon cancer has spread to the pancreas he has a stage IV colon cancer. If they find the pancreas is a separate cancer his colon cancer remains a IIIA-IIIC and the pancreatic cancer is staged separately. I am sorry to tell you neither of these scenarios has a good prognosis. What happens from here will depend on the pancreatic findings.
2016-03-13 01:42:38 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Sweetie I am so so sorry. Just last week I found out a very close friend of mine has exactly the same thing. I am so upset. I have worked in a hospital for a while now and I'm so sorry too say, the knowledge I do have about pancreas cancer isnt good. The fourth stage is basically the last one. Its amazing one day my friend Donna was fine the next day, she was told she had about 9 weeks to live. She is in stage 4 also and only 47 years old. But maybe there are people who have survived this, but I doubt it. Again i'm so so sorry. God Bless. My prayers are with you and your brother -in law.
2006-12-02 07:52:23 · answer #3 · answered by kathy p 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I'm so sorry for your brother in law and you all you can do now is spend time with him, help as much as you can to keep him comfortable. Check out the May Clinic website for any information on st 4 pancreatic cancer. Just be for him to help and God Bless You both.
2006-12-02 04:43:40 · answer #4 · answered by Pearl N 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Unfortunately pancreatic cancer is a very deadly cancer. I'm sorry to hear your family is going through this. My sister came very close to death while having a bone marrow transplant, and I always made sure that when I was around her I didn't act like I was at a funeral. I made myself act cheerful and happy, but I didn't go into denial either. It was helpful to her to talk about the fact that she might die. Dying is not as scary as some people think. It's very difficult to go through for the loved ones, but he can have a peaceful passage. Offer to help him make arrangments for his belongings, or a will. Something practical that will allow the two of you to spend time together and give him a sense of accomplishment and peace that his affairs are in order. Best of luck to you and your family.
2006-12-02 03:57:27 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
My dad had pancreas cancer. There is no reason your brother in law should be suffering with so much pain. HIs Dr. must be told he needs better, stronger medicine. and the level of medicine upped. Get hospice involved like that other lady said. I don't know why you and her got thumbs down. I thought she had a good answer. I've heard of 'theraputic touch', nurses in hospitals do it. It's kind of the same as energy touch I guess. My dad used it one of his friends is a nurse who put her hands on him... it helped his pain a lot. I think dad used a hot water bottle on his back too. good luck in helping.
2006-12-02 12:52:27 · answer #6 · answered by pedro 1 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Pancreatic cancer has a recovery rate of between 4 & 5%.
Spend as much time with him as you can (make sure he is comfortable with the length of your visits).
It is also important at this time for the family to come together and let him know how much he is cared about and loved.
Pray for him.
2006-12-02 04:33:30 · answer #7 · answered by LABL 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yes, I had a friend with 4th stage brain cancer recover and another with 3rd stage nose cancer recover after doing a detox.
Do you think your brother in law would be interested?
If he is, I would like to help him.. you can contact me at verityy@yahoo.com
2006-12-04 03:45:12 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
My BF has lost three relatives to pancreatic cancer. It is a very aggressive disease. I would try to be there as much as possible, if you are close talk to him, read books, be there and be cheerful AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. It will not be good if everytime you see him, you are upset. How is he your bro-in-law, he is your wife's bro, or is he married to your sister? Try to be there for the person closest to him as well, they are hurting and scared as well. I commend you for trying to be sympathetic and helpful in this difficult time.
I will pray for you
Ariana
2006-12-03 04:44:55 · answer #9 · answered by RachelsMama 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Pancreatic cancer has a low surivival rate because of the high number of blood vessels, thus it easily spreads. Just keep doing what you are doing.
2006-12-02 03:54:52 · answer #10 · answered by Rued 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋