What is the meaning and usage of the phrase "some odd" or perhaps "someodd"?

Question

This is a relatively popular phrase, which I can't find any information about at the moment. I'm pretty sure it means something like "roughly" or "around", but I'm wondering if it is an actual formal phrase or idiom and whether people out there have heard it used often.

common examples:

"He only has 200 some odd dollars left in his bank account."

"I have already been waiting 15 some odd minutes here."

(I'm unsure of the syntax of using it either; for instance, should there be a comma preceeding the phrase in these examples?)

Answer 1

In your two examples I wouldn't use the word "some", yes odd is used to mean roughly

It costs 200 odd pounds
There are 30 odd people waiting

Answer 2

Both your examples are inappropriate uses.

He has 15 dollars and some odd change.
(Meaning the change doesn't measure even, so it probably isn't four quarters, it could be 38 cents 3 dimes, a nickel, and three pennies)

That is some odd fellow!
(Meaning unusual. Also could mean gay, esp. Historically, since he presumably isn't paired with a female.

I've been waiting an hour and some odd minutes.
(Meaning over an hour, but not 15, 30, or 45 minutes, since that would be said an hour and half, or an hour and a quarter)

I have a dozen red apples and some odd grannysmiths
(Meaning Probably less than 12 grannysmiths, but not 1, and probably not an even number)

It isn't fully defined, but when used, SOME ODD should indicate that the number isn't easily viewed or important. It doesn't add up to a dollar, a married couple, an hour, or a whole apple pie.

Hope that helps!

Answer 3

it means "and a little bit more" and i have seen it written with a hyphen "some-odd"

Answer 4

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