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Personally, I'm an open-minded Agnostic, but some of the prophecies are convincing...

Was the New Tesament changed to agree with the Old?

Are they coincidences?

2006-11-30 14:33:45 · 16 answers · asked by Eleventy 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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oddly enough, a chassidic rabbi has found a chicken who fulfills 42 messianic prophecies from the tanach... its truly amazing, you can read about it here:

http://www.messiahpage.com/htmldocs/chassidicrooster.html

and yes, most "messianic prophecies" the christians use are mistranslations of hebrew, most of them obviously deliberate, such as the "piercing" psalm or the "virgin" birth prophecy of isaiah. the ones that are not deliberate mistranslations are vague, ridiculous biblical passages that weren't even messianic prophecies in the first place but are just manipulated to point to jesus, such as verses saying that somebody "will bruise satan's head." i'm not kidding, they actually use that as a messianic prophecy.

if you want to see why actual messianic prophecies show that jesus was not the messiah, or even a prophet, check out these sites:

http://www.whatjewsbelieve.org/
http://www.messiahtruth.com/

2006-11-30 14:41:38 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Wow, the Chrsitophobes answer the question by simply saying that he didn't fulfill the prophesy...that's a poor way out of answering the question. That self-fulfilling answer can't explain them all either. The bible has never been and will never be disproven. People make up all kinds junk to oppose the bible. They put so much effort into throwing garbage at the bible because they know that God is real; and the fear of Him, without knowing Him, makes them actively insult, oppose, and deny Him.

Jesus did indeed fulfill all the prophecies. In addition, there were countless other prophecies fulfilled in the bible about certain empires and how they would rise and fall. Consider those prophecies as well.

Here's one prophecy for you, the bible says "Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts..." People don't want to believe because they have to face to truth, get on their knees, and receive the gift presented for all of us....even for those who say He isn't real.

2006-11-30 15:00:19 · answer #2 · answered by the_sulu_dance 2 · 1 2

No the NT wasn't changed to agree with OT. There are also historical documents that confirm NT and Jesus. I don't think the world, as it is now or as it was 2000 years ago, could pull off such a feat as falsifying so much.

Aside from prophecy already fulfilled, look at some of the things happening in the world SIMULTANEOUSLY that are clearly prophesied in the Bible.

2006-11-30 14:40:15 · answer #3 · answered by Gardener for God(dmd) 7 · 1 1

Since all the Gospels and other texts of the New Testament were written after Jesus' death, the stories were often told in a way to fit a particular agenda, often envolving "fulfilling" a particular prophesy. On further examination you might find they are far from convincing or "fulfilling".

There is a source online called The Skeptic's Bible that explores many of these.

Hope that helps.

--Bob

2006-11-30 14:40:06 · answer #4 · answered by Robert E 2 · 4 1

there are a selection of. Joshua, Isaiah and Jeremiah are some. They prophesy about the destruction of particular international locations. It says that their names and the names of their gods will be remembered no better. party: the Jebusites, Hivites, Perizzites, Edomites, Moabites, Babylonians. I did a 12 months-lengthy learn on it. i began plugging their names into my Microsoft Encharta encyclopedia and compared the prophecies with secular historic previous. One after yet another I were given an same reaction: Extinct. we do not recognize a lot/something about them or their gods. it truly is one about the destruction of Babylon: Jeremiah fifty one:37 And Babylon shall change into hundreds, a residing position for jackals, an astonishment, and an hissing, devoid of inhabitant. Is 13:21 yet wild beasts of the wasteland shall lie there; and their residences will be complete of jackals: and owls shall live there and wild goats shall dance there. those prophecies were written seven hundred-six hundred bce. right it truly is a quote from an archaeologist's e book from 1853 ad: "Shapeless hundreds of garbage cover for most an acre the face of the land..On all aspects, fragments of glass, marble, pottery, and inscribed brick are mingled wih that odd nitrous and blanched soil, which bred from the continues to be of historic habitations, tests or destroys plants, and render the area of Babylon a unadorned and hideous waste. Owls commence from the scanty thickets, and the foul jackal skulks with the help of the furrows."

2016-10-08 01:06:29 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Well given that the majority of answers to "Why were books left out of the Bible?" is "Because they weren't consistent with the rest of the Bible," I'd say that's a pretty good indicator that the Bible was carefully edited for consistency purposes. Anything that indicated a prophecy wasn't fulfilled was conveniently deleted.

And incidently, the people saying "Because they weren't consistent" have all been Christian, from what I've seen.

Bright blessings!
)O(

2006-11-30 14:40:57 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

How's this...take all the prophecy, put it in a pile...pull out a particular prediction, if it was fulfilled or fulfillment can be faked, put the prediction into a jar labeled 'in'. If the prophecy was not fulfilled or can't be faked, put the prediction in a different jar labeled 'out'. When you're done, take all the prophecies from the 'in' jar and put them 'in' your book and send it off to the bindery.

2006-11-30 14:40:02 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

Coincidence, vagueness, and willful suspension of critical thought. Check out the answers right below me as a perfect example - doesn't take much to impress them, does it?

If you say enough stuff, and you keep it sufficiently vague, you can always claim to have predicted things. Every checkout line magazine "psychic" does the same thing, and I could easily do it as well. Child's play.

It's not supernatural - it's just playing on human impulse to find meaning in randomness.

2006-11-30 14:42:55 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

well, he didn't. there are two books in the bible that deal with jesus birth, and they both contradict each other. there was no census ordered by caesar, only by a local governor, and it was issued after king herrod died. secondly, according to historical records, david lived a thousand years before jesus' parents. why would jesus dad be ordered to go back to the town where his ancestor of a thousand years ago lived to be counted in a census. it doesn't make sense.

2006-11-30 14:37:46 · answer #9 · answered by odieman_3 2 · 3 1

Matthew was obsessed with fulfilling OT prophesy.

2006-11-30 14:36:20 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

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