Is the complexity of the universe proof of God?

Question

Why or Why not?

Answer 1

No. Complexity does not indicate intelligence. The study of self-organization has be demonstrating for over 30 years that entropy in open systems will tend to form complexity simply by the nature of the physical laws. Some of these examples are demonstrated in the simulation software, linked.

http://www.scottcamazine.com/personal/selforganization/starlogo/starlogo.htm

Answer 2

The universe is FAR too complex to have been the product of intelligent design.

It's probably the most ironic thing that I know of that so many people see complexity as evidence of design, when in fact quite the opposite is true. If you look around you at things that we know were intelligently designed and then at things that were not, it should be immediately clear that intelligent design processes are simply not capable of producing truly complex products. The current difficulties with the wiring in the A380 is a great example, and the practical aspect of this fact powers commercial products, as this recent article shows:

"For years, computer scientists had tried to help machines perform mundane tasks like reading printed words or telling faces apart. With algorithms similar to those used by stock pickers, programmers created millions of rules designed to tell an “A” from an “a.” But no machine could read a page of text as well as the average child.

So Mr. Kurzweil and others took a different tack: instead of creating sequential rules to instruct a computer to read, they thought, why not create thousands of random rules and let the computer figure out what works?

The result was nonlinear decision making processes more akin to how a brain operates. So-called “neural networks” and “genetic algorithms” have become common in higher-level computer science. Neural networks permit computers to create new rules and automatically change underlying assumptions by experimenting with thousands of random sequences and processes. Genetic algorithms encourage software to “evolve” by letting different rules compete, and combining the most successful outcomes" (Duhigg, 2006).

Later: No, I'm not "underestimating" gods. The question is about a proof. If you have to resort to magical thinking, it's not a proof at all. In fact real complexity is not the product of intelligent design, but rather of mindless processes. If the believer is allowed to say "but what if we presuppose a designer capable of intelligently designing the universe anyway?" then we're not in the realm of science, proof, reason, evidence, or reality anymore. At that point, you're just telling a silly children's story.

Answer 3

If it is, then the argument fails under its own logic (the logic being that great complexity requires an intelligent designer). Why? Because then how do we explain God?
But ... that said, we're left with the ultimate mystery no matter whether we keep god in or take him out of the picture. The mystery that something always existed (process, potential, whatever) and that this something contained in it the mechanism that resulted in this universe and everything in it, including consciousness. Forget about the images of god; we need to concentrate on the implications of this fundamental mystery. It needs to be thought about for quite a while before it's fully appreciated.

Answer 4

The complexity of the universe surely points to intelligent design. To have intelligent design you would need a designer. That designer is God! Certainly makes more sense than there was a big bang and then we existed. For that theory, I would ask, what put all the matter and substance in place that caused the big bang in the first place? No matter how far science can get with the smallest of detail and matter, it still started somewhere.

Answer 5

Absolutely. Randomness could never form the fine-tuning of the universe. Just like it would be completely ridiculous to believe randomness carved the 4 presidents on Mount Rushmore. Scientist have proven the Earth had a begining just like the bible says. So therefore there is no chance randomness could form anything. Evolution is the biggest joke.
Here is some science for you
http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/audio/newevidence.htm

Oh and DNA is coding---> intelligent design I think so

Here's some other interesting thoughts if your curious
http://www.everystudent.com/forum/chance.html

http://www.godsci.org/gs/chri/testimony/seek.html

http://www.godsci.org/gs/new/figment.html

Answer 6

no. Is the complexity of nuclear power plants proof of the existence of god(s)? Just because you can't explain something doesn't mean a god did it.

Answer 7

Yes!
The complexity of all things, living and inate, is way beyond happenstance. Like 10 to the 450 billionth odds of it all coming together to poduce us, "humans"
Just look at the universe and know it is a Great Creation.

Answer 8

It is proof that there is INTELLIGENCE, and one that man cannot create! Is all in order, beautiful , awesome , languages, humans , species , thoughts , all is in balance , is all created , it is complex from a complex thought! What we cannot truly understand , we question and argue about> Hugs.

Answer 9

No, complexity doesn't imply intelligent design.

Answer 10

Yes, there is no way that humans and the whole earth came from a bang and single organisms.