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I live abroad now, but will come back to Blighty one day. When I lived there I often got irritated by people making badly thought out rants about asylum seekers, immigrants etc. Even my Nan sounded like a fascist sometimes. But reading YA it seems a lot of people are very angry. Is it time to close the door? Who should we allow into Britain? How about EU citizens? The Poles have migrated in large numbers and proved to be a great benefit to Britain, but it seems even they aren't entirely welcome. 10 points to the most intelligent answer. No response necessary from thickos who type in text-speak.

2006-11-29 20:01:05 · 15 answers · asked by massadaman 4 in Politics & Government Immigration

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Hello,

This is one of those questions were I believe the answers could be both Yes! and No!.

On the one hand Britain is an island nation that has seen successive invasions & Conquests from numerous different races & peoples (the romans, the saxons, the vikings,etc). Britain had a massive empire & much of our historic wealth has come from slavery, expliotation & trading. In the second world war many people escaped from the devastation that was going on in Europe and came into the UK. So you can see we've always had immagration and migration, you cannot say immagration is a new experience for us.

**The problem I think is more about the fact that we ARE an island (all be it a reasonably sized one!) and being an island means we do have limits on space & resources.

**The other paradoxic part to this issue, is do you see immagration as adding something to the whole, i.e. bringing benefit to our society or do you see immagration as mainly a draining of resources. In other words is the glass half empty or half full, that I believe is closer to the core of this question.

**The UK involment with the EU has seen the problem become worse, the dilemma increase. why? as poorer states & countries jioned the EU club they wanted to gain the benefits of EU membership and improve their living standards. EU labour laws allow for workers to move from one EU country to another and thats yet another part of the concern about immagration. Our government wildly underestimated the number of workers who would come into the UK seeking work (I think the orginial estimate was about 10,000 in reality its been 245,000 or there abouts).

**The polish workers coming into the UK are not entirely welcomed why? because they are very hard working and prepared to take lower wages than most UK workers, why? because even though badly paid by our standards by polish standards they're well paid.

So polish workers can fulfil jobs that UK workers dont want to do, but some people feel polish people are putting a strain on jobs & the jobs market. How true that is, is yet another question and hard to answer. Non of this has clear cut or black & white answers, the answer I suggest is always going to be relative or subjective.

IR

2006-11-29 20:43:22 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

Well I cam back to Blighty after a long (38 years) sojourn abroad and I have been quite shocked.
In some parts you could be forgiven for thinking this was Africa - or Asia.
After 32 months back here I have noticed that a lot of ordinary English people are very unhappy with the situation but for some reason fail to take a stand against it.
I think this has to do with an idea that has been foisted on them that to complain about the presence of too many non-whites is racism - and then to believe that to be a racist is the worst thing that you can be.
It is also clear that many of these immigrants do not share old fashioned British values.
I grew up in England and remember that we were tought for example, th dispose of litter by throwing it in a bin and not down in the street.
Nowadays I watch black reenagers walking down the street eating chiken from a box and then just dropping the remains on the pavement as they walk along. Having spent years in Africa I know this is the norm there.
The sad part is that this bad habit is 'infecting' the locals.
This is just one example.
To answer your question: Yes, there is great cause for concern and I believe that we should have at least a moratorium on immigration especially from Asia and Africa and the Caribean.

Standards are falling badly here. Unfortunately many young people who have never been anywhere else and who have been badly brought up don't know any better.

2006-11-29 20:45:39 · answer #2 · answered by George 3 · 0 0

Concerned, concerned. Blimey,where have you been. The elderly cannot afford to put their heating on.When they are sick their are no hospital beds.
Teachers can't teach because their are so many none speaking English kids demanding their attention. Police have their hands tied as they are told to be lenient to foreigners because of the amount of paper work involved. Then theres the court time.Police are told if the trans later does not show up,the criminal walks away. This has hap pend recently with a hit and run case. We have a huge leap in T.B and Aids. The amount of Africans that buy a ticket to London then arrive at a hospital for treatment is unbelievable.They cannot then be deported as The treatment is unavailable to them in Africa and it's against their human rights not to be treated.
Yesterday there was a riot in a detention centre,where the illegals are held for deportation.They recked everything in the place. Guess what.They released 150 of them because the prison are full.
I can go on and on and on.this is not even the tip of the problems we have

2006-11-29 22:06:23 · answer #3 · answered by David 4 · 2 0

I am worried about who comes to Britain. As it stands, many of us unemployed are so because companies have to give the jobs to the ethnic minority. You say that the Poles have been a great benefit to us. Would that be so if us British natives were to have all the jobs? No, people would moan because they cost tax payers money. It is about time Britain closed it's doors. The latest 2 countries to join the EU have crime rates much worse then ours. Why do you live abroad? Couldn't stand living here?

2006-11-29 20:17:42 · answer #4 · answered by gr_bateman 4 · 0 0

I remember an episode of Southpark where in the future everyone is a light shade of brown. Most of east London is like that now. I think the problem is that people come from poor countries so they bring their poor way of life. Immigration from fully developed countries bring a similar or better standard of living. This is shown by the expectation of living environment, cleanliness, hygiene etc. It's really only in the big cities. I'm sure the small cities are mostly British.

2016-05-23 04:25:28 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Well we Brits have to accept that Migrants have played a big role in making Britain what it is today, one of the most powerful and economically stable countries in the world with one of the highest GDP. The UK is one of the richest countries in the world. From day one immigrants have help Britain going back to British colonial days when the British invaded 1/4 of the world. Indian soldiers were forced into the UK during WW1 and WW2 to fight for the British Government. If it wasnt for them, we may not be a democratic country today. I admit that some people abuse the system, but we should not generalise a whole population.

Peace.

2006-11-29 23:21:01 · answer #6 · answered by Mr curious 3 · 0 2

IMMIGRANTS, NOT BRITON'S, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on London, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Brits. However, the dust from the attacks has barely settled and the politically correct" crowd begin complaining about the possibility that our patriotism is offending others. I AM NOT AGAINST IMMIGRATION, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Britain. However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of London being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Britons, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle.
This culture has been developed over centuries of wars, struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom. We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language! "In God We Trust" is our National Motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture. If St George's cross offends you or you don't like “A Fair Go" then you should seriously consider moving to another part of this planet.
We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our National Motto, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great British freedom, "THE RIGHT TO LEAVE". If you aren't happy here then f*ck off! We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted. It’s pretty easy really when you think about it.

2006-11-29 20:12:49 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 5 1

What I am finding is that people from other countries who come here are prepared to work for a living. Unlike the citizens who are just bone idle and have no other use than to have kids and eat at popular burger convienience stores.

I find this very harsh to me as my dad travelled from Jamaica to work in this country at a time when he faced the same hostility from the residents of the United Kingdom.(sic).

Fact was that the people of this country did not want to do the jobs of bus drivers,cleaners,low end factory work and other hard manual and menial tasks. When they (Uk residents) were being paid a higher wage.

I also remember reading that Enoch Powell had a shortage of nurses and doctors. So he invited them from India who had been trained by our medical staff to work in this country. The irony!!!!!

Sometimes people should read and think about the past.

2006-11-29 20:33:15 · answer #8 · answered by Vinyl Junkie 2 · 0 2

it depends on whether you think it's more important that people come and do the jobs that british people don't generally want to do, as immigrants often do, or that it's more important that foreigners will inevitably bring their culture with them, and wish to continue it where we are, thus adding more spice to the mix of everyday life in our country. but, seeing as we are an island, it does not seem unreasonable to assume that there must be a limit to the number of people this country can sustain.

2006-11-29 20:35:08 · answer #9 · answered by andrewjames 1 · 0 0

People have been migrating to Britain for over 2000 Years. The Brits just absorb them into their communities and eventually everybody gets on with each other and live happily together no prob's.

2006-11-29 20:40:04 · answer #10 · answered by ALLAN L 2 · 0 2

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