Is it not obvious that the Environment and World Weather patterns work in a cycle?

Question

But if Humanity is to survive until our technology can save everyone, shouldn't we do all we can to SLOW the process of change in the desire for self preservation.

Meaning - GLOBAL WARMING IS NATURAL - but it will destroy humanity if we don't try to slow it during our time here.

And to deny that Humans create much more carbon emissions with our "new" technologies is just silly. (To add humans and our current technology to any time frame in the history of earth, will without a doubt result in GIANT increases in carbon emission - i.e. global warming)


DO YOU NOT TRY AND CHANGE HARSH ENVIROMENTS WITH THINGS LIKE HEAT AND A/C - why would you deny doing it for the earth then?

Hey Mayor, you really need to stay off the crack.

Please look up your sources again.

PS. The comments link is for your response...idiot.

Jake F - Stay out of this.

Mayor - you should really leave your Macroeconomics 101 book at home. You layers of fluff quotes do not hide the fact you are saying plain old silliness. The value of the dollar against any foreign currency needs to be strong.
Example: You preach of this wonderful explosion of goods to Japan when the dollar was weaker, but yet you fail to mention the massive purchasing of US Companies and US real estate by Japanese owned businesses and Japanese businessmen. When one trading partners currency becomes weaker against the other partner, the other partner gets bought out and the "trading" in a sense becomes internal.

Talk to me when you get to your senior level thesis and can compare theory with actual relevance for America.

Thanks

I've changed my avatar because variety is the spice of life. I will go back to it one day, but not before I revive Ronnie Villa, The Evil Rocky Dennis, and GOP Dream Girls(I think you might really like that one)

Alright.......obvisouly we are looking at this value of the dollar from two different sides. You think its a good think, I think its not.

But, about you comment about Global Warming..........Remember the earth is 4.5 billion years old, and has gone through numerous climate changes. When people talk about global warming they are only looking at the past 100-200 years or maybe the past 1000 years of time, which isn't even one one-trillionth the amount of time the earth has existed.
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Check your math, last time I looked a trillion is larger than a billion.


The levels of CO2 concentration exceeding about 300 ppm are not seen in the last half million years, currently we exceed 330ppm.

Humanity has not been around for more than 500,000 years - so we've never

soooo. Humanity has not existed with these amounts of CO2 EVER.........species after species goes extinct because there climate changes faster than they adapt......We are on the verge of seeing that again, so we need to adapt to the new environment before we go extinct. So yes, if by not driving you SUV to 7/11 and walking you delay this catastrophic climate change by 5 seconds, IT HELPS give humanity time adapt.


I'm pretty much done with this now. If you really want to shoot facts back and forth, I don't think this is the forum for it.

Sorry

Answer 1

Wow you are a big brave guy. You write jabs at people and end your question before anyone can respond to it.

I guess the micro pen joke is actually not a joke at all. And just like a typical liberal when you cannot logically prove your thesis you start hurling insults to make up for your lack of intellect.

Well I will post my response here and answer this question.

How many economic classes have you taken? I can definitely see not many. Currency deflation is an economic strategy. Did you know Japan has purposely deflated it's currency five time in the last 20 years? Last time I checked Japan is the second largest economy in world.

A weaker currency can be a bad thing, but not in the case of the US. Our largest trading partners have their currency pegged to ours. The commodities Americans need for everyday use are traded in dollars not foreign currencies, so the price of these good does not increase just because the dollar decreases.

Let me give you a simple, easy macroeconomic example. I will use the Euro and Microsoft. The Euro is trading higher than the dollar, and next year Microsoft plans to release Vista. This mean two things either Microsoft can sell Vista at a cheaper price meaning more Europeans will buy copies then they would have previously, which means that Microsoft will have even more revenue and expand the US economy. Or the more likely scenario is that Microsoft will keep the price of Vista the same, since they probably figure they will sell just as many copies either way. If they sell Vista at the same price they planned to sell it for two years ago, then since the Euro is worth more against the dollar, Microsoft will generate more revenue; and again expand the US economy.

Now multiply this example by hundreds of tech companies, and thousands of other companies. The result is large economic expansion.

Now, long term, meaning if the dollar stays low for 20, 30, or 40 years, there may be dire consequences. Global commodity exchange markets could stop standardizing on the dollar, etc. But that most likely will not happen, as the US economy grows because of the weaker dollar, the dollar will automatically increase in value.

Why don't you educate yourself before you make such asinine comments. If just makes you look like a fool.

Now to answer this question.

Warming and cooling trends on the earth are cyclical and have nothing to do with the actions of human beings.

In fact, the current CO2 level is the lowest it has been in the entire geologic history of the earth. In fact, grasses only evolved and started to flourish because they require less carbon dioxide than other plant life. Likewise, many plant species became extinct because the level of carbon dioxide has decreased so dramatically.

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Jake F. I cannot believe how stupid you are about to look. So, the atmospheric carbon dioxide level today is the highest it has ever been ever, huh?

Well, let's take a look at mid-Cretaceous period 120 to 90 Million years ago. During that period of geologic history the carbon dioxide levels where AT LEAST 2 to 4 times higher than they are today. And the levels were even higher before the Cretaceous period.

Read it for yourself on the NOAA website, which is not some nameless site; but the National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration!

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/cretaceous.html


I wish I could see the look on your face, and that face would be the face of the dumbest person on earth!

Ouch! Burned toast!!

Remember the earth is 4.5 billion years old, and has gone through numerous climate changes. When people talk about global warming they are only looking at the past 100-200 years or maybe the past 1000 years of time, which isn't even one one-trillionth the amount of time the earth has existed.

And micro pen, I do not care about making personal comments to you. I would rather make them publicly, as far as the comment link is concered no one ever checks them; and show me a question that actually even has a comment. Moreover, if you want the sources for the Japanese currency deflation as well, I will be happy to provide those too.

If you are in college, I really hope for your sake you are not a Buiness, Econmics, or Environmental Science major. Your comments do not speak well to your ability to make it through.

However, I will give you credit, you did keep the question open and allowed me to respond. I respect that. Thanks.

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I see you have changed your avatar, I hope this had nothing to do with my comments. I actually thought your old avatar was funny.

Alright, now you are making some good points. However, I think your points just support my argument.

The reason why the Japanese economy collapsed at the end of 1989 was because of the previous 10 years of leveraging investments in real estate, stocks, and currency to expand and increase of the value of each. That and the lack of banking regulations. And if you notice all of the ground Japan grained in the 1980s purchasing land in the US, especially in California and Hawaii, and buying US companies, they lost in the 1990s. Japanese companies were forced to sell most of these acquired assets to pay creditors, usually for heavy losses. You can actually see a measurable ripple effect of this. The Hawaiian real estate market collapsed during the 1990s because of the massive Japanese sell off. It actually did not fully recover until the early 2000s.

I was refereeing to the Japanese economy during the 1990s. After the Nikkei crash, every time the Japanese economy went into deeper recession, they deflated their currency and traded their way out of each recession. However, the effect of Japan selling increased amounts of Japanese goods was an increase in currency value, which was directly related to the economic expansion caused by its deflated currency.

Once a country no longer backs its currency with gold, currency is only worth anything, if and only if, it is perceived as being worth something. And this is directly related to the size and growth of a given economy, and both the size and growth are based on cause and effect.

The dollar will not stay low against the Euro or Pound for long, with in a year or two the US's economic expansion will increase the value of the dollar.

If you are so concerned about the dollar's value versus the British Pound, then you should long for the economic pattern of early to mid 1980s. That was the only time period in history the dollar traded 1 for 1 against the Pound Sterling. However, this also caused record trade deficits and was also the time of the first major collapse of the US auto industry. Moreover, this tight monetary policy actually caused the 1982 and 1983 recession.

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Agreed this is not the forum. We will have to agree to disagree about the value of the dollar.

You are right I did slip a couple of zeros in my calculation. 100/4.5 billion = 2.2 X 10^-8 which equals 22 billionth of the total.

I do want to see GOP dream girl, but I would rather see Libertarian dream girl.

I may change my avatar myself, you are only the second person to figured out who my avatar is a picture of. So kudos for that, the funny thing is most people have no idea who he is.

Good debating with you.

You definitely have my respect!

Answer 2

First you need the majority of people to accept that global warming is real .
The next step is getting around to man as a contributor of billions of tons of carbon into the air .
Then , is a plan to reduce carbon emissions going to work or will we need to do something else .
Like could we stimulate the growth of carbon converting sea plankton or stimulate the conversion by planting more hemp/Pot plants that remove five times there weight in carbon and can be used for materials and fuel .
Hemp seed oil is a great alternative fuel source .
Ok pot is the answer to everything .Feel bad smoke some weed .Headache smoke some weed going blind smoke some weed flat tire smoke some weed and call a friend to help smoke some weed and watch the AAA guy change the flat .
The reason we have such high levels is the government burned all the hemp in the northern hemisphere .Today only a few hundred acres of weed are grown and at great risk to those saving the planet .

Answer 3

Weather in Turkey has changed, too. The winters are colder and the summers are much hotter than usual, for the last two years. But I think and all the other countries' weather changes are due to the global warming, destruction of the atmosphere and the general pollution. SO the doomsday will come in the end because of these bad situations. The atheists will call it the mistreatment of the nature and the religious will call it the end of the world.

Answer 4

In another billion years, the sun will have expanded into a red giant, possible to the point of engulfing the earth. Yet prior to that event, the energy output of the sun will continue to climb, producing more and more heat on this planet. Eventually, even without human production of greenhouse gases, the Earth will become inhospitable to even the most hardy of life forms.

The point I'm trying to make is that regardless of cyclical weather patterns, carbon dioxide levels and human imprint upon the environment, the Earth will still be doomed to become a lifeless planet. This is why it is imperitive for our species to become a space-capable species if we want to survive.

Answer 5

In the last 650,000 years there have been six ice ages, and during all that time the level of atmospehric carbon never rose above 300 ppm.

Now it's at something like 380.

Natural?? I think not.


What I fail to understand is how conservatives could first argue that even though we weren't sure Saddam had WMD we had to act, and then turn around and argue that since we aren't sure about global warming (though we really are), we must not act.

Answer 6

on Science Daily.. i read an article that claimed 60%of the green house gasses that are annually produced are from humans and the other 40% is from natural causes... and in another article on the same sight i read that they have a plan to place a "solar blanket" in space... they would launch billions of tiny reflective unmanned satellites to orbit in the furthest earth orbit (it's well past the moon.. i forget how far) and they would be computerized so that they could talk to each other and stay in the proper positions... it would take 7 years to launch all of the satellites and they would cool the Earth by about 3 degrees Celsius for about 30 years... this is a last resort kind of thing and it is with technology we already possess.

Answer 7

Damned El Nino

Answer 8

That Mayor really looks like a cracked out monkey..lol

And he is stupid and rambles. The Carbon Levels are currently the highest they have EVER been...and the level of biological diversity is the highest its ever been.

So everything can't be all bad.

Answer 9

anybody who really understands history and science can see that ofcourse. but the fact that the sun will become a red giant before we can destroy the planet our selves shows me fixing global warming isn't really feasible anyway.

Answer 10

It is a natural cycle.