A man murders someone and is sentenced to death. I offer to go to the electric chair for him. Can I truly take on his moral burden so that he is blameless for his crimes? Should he be allowed to walk free? Should someone born 200 years from now also be considered blameless because I died for someone else? Why?
2006-11-29 00:37:41 · 26 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
In the real world, no.
Substitutionary justice is no justice at all...it's sick and it's a cynical way to balance ledgers. Hell, you see some of that going on in the Middle East with groups killing one another: Someone looses a child to a rival tribe's assassin, he goes and murders some other member of the rival tribe in revenge, the sibling of the murder victim goes out and machineguns a bus of the first mans' tribe...and it never ends.
The whole thing started with the notion of blood sacrifice to God to atone for sins...goats, sheep, and so forth. Did anyone notice that when Cain supposedly offered God some of his hard-grown wheat and Abel offered an animal he had caught, God liked Abel's sacrifice more? God had a fetish for blood, I guess. And burning flesh too. Until Jesus's got spilled, then he suddenly got squeamish about it.
He didn't die for anyone's sins: He was killed because he was politically inconvienent and became a martyr to his own cause. That's all. The rest of the nonsense got tacked on later.
2006-11-29 00:54:23 · answer #1 · answered by Scott M 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
That is a messed up question.
First off, the law punishes an individual for his crimes, not a person to be named later.
Religious rights people would argue that you cannot die for someone Else's sins at the hand of man (kinda hypocritical). I guess that would make Jesus not so special if everyone went around dying for someone Else's sins. Then all he would have going for him was that his mother and God did the nasty.
Also ACLU would say that you were under direst when you made the decision and it would be held up in courts for years. So you probably wouldn't get the chance to find out.
Should you be able to, someone 200 years from now would not even realized what you did. Jesus is famous because he did it first. No one remembers who the second person on the moon was and no one will remember that you died for a murder except Jesus who will ridicule you for being a copy-cat.
2006-11-29 00:51:08 · answer #2 · answered by lgianakis 2 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Ahh, very good sir. I see where you're going with this question.
... maybe you should take the Bible sometime and dissect it. Most of what's written in it is stolen from Judaism and the various Pagan religions.
Anyway, no, he is not. He may feel very proud of himself for getting off the hook, that murderer. You can attempt to take on his moral burden, but, remember some people have little to no morals. Someone born 200 years from that poit in time wouldn't be considered blameless because you died for someone else because YOU died for one person's sins. You didn't die for their (people 200 years from that point in times') sins.
- 16 yo Pagan
2006-11-29 00:41:43 · answer #3 · answered by Lady Myrkr 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
No. And Christianity does not teach that a person is absolved of all blame. Those who sin still face the legal and moral consequences of their sins. The adulterer would still have to deal with the damage done to his marriage, or the STD he brought home with him. The abusive parent still has to deal the the damage they have done to their child. And the murderer still has to face the court, prison, and possibly even the death sentence.
What the death of Christ offers is a New Birth through faith that allows the changing of the murder's heart so that he no longer desires to murder.
The reason that Jesus could give his life to free others was because his life was righteous. There was no sin in it. He was able to pass that righteousness on to others. If the person 200 years from now is totally righteous, then he could do that same. By why would he need to? Its already been done? No need to pay the debt a second time.
2006-11-29 00:51:55 · answer #4 · answered by dewcoons 7 · 0⤊ 4⤋
The unsurprising thing to me is none of the believers here even question the barbaric notion of human sacrifice to expiate another's crimes, or the rationality of a being that can create the whole universe, but which requires the blood and death of its already finite creatures when its ego is wounded or sleighted, or the worthiness of such a petty and childish being of worship. Moreover, these folk, so many of whom believe in the inerrancy of their mythology, never seem to notice that this concept of substitutional death is a pagan concept that contradicts the OT god which forbade human sacrifice.
2006-11-29 00:58:06 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
Only Jesus Christ can clear one's conscience, so the answer is no. However, if it were possible for you to take the penalty for someone elses crime and you chose to do that, I'm sure the real criminal would be very grateful. And since you are not Jesus Christ..... a perfect sacrifice, someone born 200 years from now would not be blameless because you died for one person's crime.
Jesus Christ died for ALL people's crimes. All you have to do to be forgiven for sin is to accept this and admit that Jesus Christ is Lord and believe in your heart that He is risen from the dead.
Peace.
2006-11-29 00:44:00 · answer #6 · answered by superfluity 4 · 1⤊ 2⤋
If your attempting to dismiss the death on the cross by Christ Jesus then you are missing a point. God asked Jesus to die on the cross. Jesus responded. So, to answer your first question...If the judge agrees you are absolved, then you are absolved.
Second question: Can you take on his moral burden so that he is blameless? Only if the judge agrees. If the judge sets up a provision for this then he's the judge, he can decide what he likes.
3rd queston: should you walk free....probably not. I would imagine letting a murderer walk around free would put society in danger, unless of course the very act of someone dying in his stead moved him in such a way as to be thankful for his second chance and that it alters him.
4th question...200 years or 2000 years...If your judge is God, and He says it's so, then it's so, just by the nature that he's God.
2006-11-29 00:46:51 · answer #7 · answered by sheepinarowboat 4 · 1⤊ 4⤋
it depends on what happens when you die!
if you die and God says you are now the murderer and sends your soul to hell. Can you abide the punishment?
if you CRY unto God and you cannot complete the absolution there will be no absolution
But who in their right mind would take the place of a murderer. Not even christ would do that. However, christ does Judge and he does require penence.
2006-11-29 00:42:14 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
Depends--are you an acceptable and pleasing sacrifice to the Judge?
2006-11-29 00:42:33 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
of course not!! excellent question, i must say!
moreover,if someone has died for ur sins,u'll be punished even more the next time u commit a sin
2006-11-29 01:03:44 · answer #10 · answered by Lamya 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋