What motivates the pro-illegal supporters?

Question

What's their trip, what drives them, is it all about money etc., is it a political agenda, is it a charity thing, what's REALLY going on, here?

LOL@Mark P

Answer 1

I think this debate is a complex one that has been oversimplified on both sides. Personally, I see the Statue of Liberty as inspiration, " bring me your cold, huddled masses" as a benchmark for what we are supposed to be striving for. Regrettably it seems that the sign should be updated, "give me your highly trained, educated professionals (the ones your developing state can least afford to lose) ready to get all entrepreneurial up in this hizzy".
That is just my lens.
I also have an issue with the term, "illegals" exceptionally dehumanizing. No other lawbreaker carries such a label. Take me, nobody calls me an illegal and I steal puppies (just ugly ones).
Response to Daisy:
I tend to agree with your general characterisations of those who would support undocumented or illegal immigrants. Though the terms you've used for each category I find a little dismissive. Am I a "bleeding heart"? Possibly. I would call myself an empathizer, one who believes the world is unequitable and can understand why someone would try about anything to gain access to the United States. I'm not saying it's right, just that I think I understand.
Another thing we should be mindful of, the U.S. has enjoyed hegemonic status in this hemisphere since WWII. Some policies employed by the U.S. have decimated infrastructures in Latin American countries. This includes the wide-spread counter-insurrgency efforts or "dirty wars" fought by American trained militaries and the current interdiction efforts in the Andean Region. These are understandable policies as regards our national interest, but they are the outgrowth of an American need that have very real consequences in these countries.
So, my support is more a by-product of empathy, but it can be called a bleeding heart, my position I consider to be a (not the) moral one.

Answer 2

Would be nice, but I find talking to these kind of people a waste of my time. And they all vary in degree. Some are stupid enough to think they can watch CNN for 10 minutes and they know it all, and they are right about the issue. Some have no interest in talking out a problem, they just want to be heard and listened to. And the irritating and wrong ones are the worse. Anyone claiming to be an "expert" in a field...say....dare I say ....Global Warming...these little mush minds soak it up but don't bother to do any research. They are fooled by websites and bas science as if they never completed High School. Too many have suspended the use of their brain and have no capability of critical thinking. I had one guy rebuff me regarding something I had seen for myself. I heard it from the guy in the stories lips himself yet this little intellectual idiot could do nothing better than call me a lair...All because I don't have a YouTube link from some obscure event from another state. Freedom of speech is one thing, but sooner or later we need to weed out the idiots that just make noise and have no interest in resolving things.

Answer 3

In CA, it appears to be drawn along racial/ethnic lines. Hispanics seem to be among the greater number of protesters against any bill or measure that would restrict or penalize illegal immigrants. When Prop 187 (which denied health care, public education and social services to illegal immigrants) was passed by almost 60% of CA voters, there were riots. It was later overturned in Federal Court. Prop 227 (which only allows instruction in English in public schools) was passed by over 66% of California voters, and has been implemented, but only after several Federal Court battles. Again, there were marches & protests, most of the participants being Hispanic. I can't really tell you why this is, it is only an observation.

Answer 4

#4 Those bleeding hearts who just think the USA is rich enough to support all the poor and downtrodden of the world and it does their hearts good to feel like they are promoting this. I guess this would fall into the "charity" category.



I'll Add To This The RACIAL DIVIDE
Created By These ILLEGAL ALIEN Advocates

The MAJORITY Of Advocates Are Hispanic / Latino

ie :
Friends, Family, Relatives, Spouses And Lovers
Of ILLEGAL ALIENS
Are Blindly Supporting A Pro-Amnesty Stance

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Answer 5

I think the reasons vary, according to the person. I am completely anti-illegal immigrant, myself. The main reasons I can see for supporters of them are:

#1 Employers who want to keep the cheap labor and don't mind that they are actually stealing from taxpayers who have to subsidize that cheap labor via social benefit subsidies, and also don't mind that they are actually taking advantage of this cheap labor by the fact that they can work them for longer hours than they can a legal and they can cheat them on their pay and there is nothing the illegal employee can do about it. They don't mind that by paying the illegals slave wages, they force them to have to live in conditions that a legal citizen would NOT be willing to live, i.e. 20 or more in a small apartment or in a garage, even, because they have to have enough bodies to split the rent enough to still have some money to buy food and clothing and send some back home.

#2 Unscrupulous landlords (usually slumlords) who charge unreasonably high rent to these people, usually asking for illegal amounts of "damage deposits" besides the unreasonably high rents and take advantage of these people by threatening to report them to the Immigration authorities if they don't pay up.

#3 Legal citizens who are related to or in romantic relationships or marriages with illegal immigrants. They don't care what it takes to get the persons here and to keep them here and don't care if those persons have to be living in the shadows while here, always having to worry that they could be discovered at any time and deported. These legal citizens are short-sighted and not thinking about the lifelong pain of their loved ones and themselves having to live like this. Then, many of them start having children (considered US citizens, anchor babies) and hope that by having the children, they will get to stay permanently. Or they hold out hope that another amnesty will be doled out down the road.

#4 Those bleeding hearts who just think the USA is rich enough to support all the poor and downtrodden of the world and it does their hearts good to feel like they are promoting this. I guess this would fall into the "charity" category.

#5 And, yes, of course the "political" category. These can be politicians who see that there are so many immigrants in the USA, legal and illegal, that they will get more votes by pandering to them. Also, they know their "friends" who want to keep the cheap labor will vote for them if they work for keeping illegals in the country.

Earlier today, I saw that someone had proudly posted that she had illegals presently painting her house. This person would really fall into the #1 category, but I'm sure she assuages any guilt feelings she may have about taking advantage of the illegals by paying them very unfair pay and cheating the taxpayers, by placing herself in the #4 "bleeding heart" category. I guess if any of her "illegal" painters were to get injured on the job, she would just drop him off at the local ER and drive away, knowing that he will get all the TLC he needs, for free!

Just my thoughts, as an anti-illegal immigrant person.

Answer 6

It time every citizen stand together and lets the government know there will be no tolerance of illegals. Fines need to be handed out to those who employ them. Not yesterday not next week but now!
I am sorry I know this does not answer your question. However each day we sit here and debate this the problem is getting worse.

Answer 7

I believe it massages their conscience (?). They can hire one to clean their house, hire another one to do the yard, then another to watch the kids... Then when they plan to run for public office they fire all of them because they are undocumented workers (illegal aliens). How many times have we already seen this happen in politics?

This could have been avoided by doing this whole thing legally....they would still have their jobs and the pro-illegal could run for public office.

Answer 8

It's mostly money: no illegals, higher salaries. Better to hire a guy from Mexico for 3 bucks an hour and no benefits than an American where minimum wages need to be paid.

Answer 9

pro-illegals usually have two things in common-1 they don't have to live with them making nuisances of themselves and 2-they are usually making money out of them anyway. (for example how much would have cost the lady above if she had her house painted by native workmen-a damn sight more than she is paying now i will wager).

Answer 10

Probably they are the relatives of the illegals. Or it may be the wealthy who need to hire inexpensive Maid service and housekeeping, gardening for their homes. Their motives are not charitable, nor pure.