"For if he were not expecting that those who had fallen would rise again, it would have been superfluous and foolish to pray for the dead. But if he was looking to the splendid reward that is laid up for those who fall asleep in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Therefore he made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin" (2 Macc. 12:44-45).
"Make friends quickly with your accuser, while you are going with him to court, lest your accuser hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the guard, and you be put in prison; truly, I say to you, you will never get out till you have paid the last penny" (Matt. 5:25-26).
"Each man’s work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire" (1 Cor. 3:13-15).
"For Christ also died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit; in which he went and preached to the spirits in prison, who formerly did not obey . . ." (1 Peter 3:18-20).
"But nothing unclean shall enter it [heaven] . . ." (Rev. 21:27).
Note: If you attempt to use a Protestant Bible to find the Second Maccabees verse, you will come up short, because Protestant reformers (such as Luther) has this book removed (as well as a few others) because of its reference to Purgatory.
2006-11-28 16:31:06
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answered by Nowhere Man 6
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The Bible speaks of the abode of the dead, of the place of the captives whom Messiah would free, of Paradise, and of Abraham's Busom, none of which constitute either heaven or hell.
In the Bible, Jesus also speaks of Abraham as a living soul, even though he was most certainly not living in heaven at the time.
This 3rd place is the place Catholics understand to be Purgatory.
No where in scripture do we find any word of this place being closed, or decommissioned.
And even if it was, the Catholic Church, rightly exercising the authority Christ gave to it alone, claims this other place to be used to perfect those who die friends of God, but in an imperfect state of holiness.
Since Christ promised to bind in heaven whatever his church binds on earth, this was a simple matter.
Unless you really believe that God can't tell the difference between a holy soul and a corrupt soul made up to look like a holy one (per Martin Luther's dung pile/snow example) you should be able to appreciate the very real advantage of such a place, for without it, the only place for the imperfect would be hell, and for all eternity.
These very important concepts are included in all versions of the Bible, not just the Catholic ones.
Faulty interpretations of scripture and anti-Catholic bias make Protestants as blind in this matter as the Jews are to Jesus Christ.
2006-11-28 18:17:25
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answered by Anonymous
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that's important have a ideal expertise of translations and their quite a few levels of accuracy. There are 2 important forms of translations: a million. word for word: this is the ideal equivalent ENGLISH word for the unique GREEK or HEBREW word. 2. Dynamic equivalent: this is the ideal equivalent ENGLISH word for the unique GREEK or HEBREW word. the two methodologies of translation are very solid and can be very precise. the fact is maximum translations will contain a litte little bit of the two a sort of approaches. additionally its important to have a sought after committee translation. this is a translation that has been printed in the final 50 years and replaced into created by making use of a committee of quite a few scholars from distinctive religious backgrounds. the magnitude of a contemporary translation is with the help of the fact in the previous contemporary years we've got here upon some greater solid greek and hebrew manuscripts that contemporary translations mirror of their works. (the AV, does no longer!) the main universal occasion is the lifeless Sea Scrolls. i think they're the oldest decision of previous testomony Manuscripts to this factor. not sure approximately that final fact although. So the ideal translation for a word for word technique is NASB: the hot American prevalent Bible (1995 replace) (particularly no debate approximately that) the ideal translation that makes use of a DYNAMIC equivalent is NIV: the hot worldwide version there is probable in basic terms slightly of dialogue regarding the NIV being the ideal of dynamic equivalents, yet manys scholars will use the NIV for his or her study. the hot dwelling Translation is likewise an extremely solid translation, yet i for my section think of it takes some too many liberties with the textual content textile. i for my section use the NIV and the NASB ordinarily. additionally, a difficulty-free to study version is THE MESSAGE, even although that's no longer a translation!!! that's a paraphrase.
2016-12-13 16:30:37
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answered by Anonymous
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+ Purgatory +
The concept of purgation is hinted at in the Bible. Here are a couple of places:
"But if someone's work is burned up, that one will suffer loss; the person will be saved, but only as through fire." 1 Cor 3:15
"So that the genuineness of your faith, more precious than gold that is perishable even though tested by fire, may prove to be for praise, glory, and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ." 1 Pet 1:7
Are you perfect now? Most people would say no.
Will you be perfect in heaven? Most people believe yes.
Purgatory (or purgation) is the process of God's love changing our imperfect selves on earth into perfect beings in heaven. Depending on the amount of change needed by different people, this can be an easy or slightly harder process.
Everyone in purgatory is on his or her way to heaven. I do not think Mother Teresa of Calcutta had a very hard time of it.
+ Sources of Doctrine +
The Catholic Church does not only use Holy Scripture for the basis of doctrine. The early Catholic church existed before and during the time that the New Testament was written (by Catholics).
Catholics also believe that the Holy Spirit was guiding the early church (and is guiding the church today) to make the correct choices about things like
- The Holy Trinity (which is also only hinted at in the Bible)
- Going to church on Sunday instead of Saturday (which is actually directly against one of the ten commandments)
- Which books to include in the New Testament?
- How do our imperfect selves on earth get to be perfect in heaven?
Things that are even more modern like
+ Slavery is bad. Slavery is never declared evil in the Bible. This was one of the justifications for slavery in the Confederate States.
+ Democracy is good. The Bible states that either God should be the leader of the nation like Israel before the kings or kings should be the leader, "Give to Caesar that which is Caesar's." This was talked about a lot during the American Revolution.
This second source of doctrine is called Apostolic Tradition.
+ With love in Christ.
2006-11-28 17:16:47
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answered by imacatholic2 7
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The Bible doesn't come right out and say that there is a place called purgatory, but there is mention of praying for the dead in 2 Maccabees 12:38-46. It speaks of praying for the dead that their sins may be fully blotted out. Verse 44 says "for if he were not expecting the fallen to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death. 45 But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought."
In Matthew 12:22 Jesus speaks of being forgiven in the next life. "And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."
Revelation 21:27 tells us nothing unclean can enter heaven.
Hope this helps.
God bless,
Stanbo
2006-11-28 16:42:14
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answered by Stanbo 5
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Hi Larry,
I don't know if the catholic bible has purgatory in it. For certain the Holy Scriptures don't contain this teaching. There is no such thing as purgatory.
here is a web site that might help:
http://www.reachingcatholics.org/mainpage.html
2006-11-28 16:29:28
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answered by redeemed 5
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Inferred from a passage in 2 Maccabees, when the Judean commander Judas Maccabeus asks for prayers for soldiers who died wearing medallions of idols. The passage states that there would have been no point in praying for the forgiveness of the dead if it wasn't possible.
The apocryphal books were always part of the Septuagint, the first Greek translation of the Hebrew scriptures. Martin Luther rejected them precisely for passages like this one. They didn't fit his theology.
2006-11-28 16:42:17
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answered by skepsis 7
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Purgatory is fiction that has been added to the catholic teaching.
Purgatory has roots in egyption religions. It is against scripture and against the teachings of Jesus Christ.
2006-11-28 16:31:07
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answered by adsdetailing 2
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Purgatory was invented by Dante Alighieri.
2006-11-28 16:28:05
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answered by Anonymous
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It is not in the Bible, it is part of Dogma.
Ever notice that dogma spelled backwards is amgod?
2006-11-28 16:30:57
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answered by know_it_all_NOT 3
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