in golf,why do they call it the skins game and what is a skin?

Answer 1

Q. What is the Origin of 'Skins,' as in 'Skins Game'?

A "skins game" is a golf betting game that pits members of a foursome (or threesome or twosome) against each other in a type of match play. Each hole carries a value, and the winner of the hole wins that amount. Ties, or halves, result in the bet amount being carried over to the following hole, adding to the pot. When a player wins a hole, they are said to have won a "skin." Which leads us to our frequently asked question: Why "skin"? Where does the term "skins" originate?

A. So: Why are "skins" called "skins"? And how did skins games come be called what they are?
There is no definitive answer to the question, unfortunately. There are, however, a couple of commonly offered explanations, and one of golf's governing bodies also weighs in on the question. And a new contender for the origin has emerged from the Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd Edition (see "update" below).

Do a Web search, or ask enough golfers, and the most common explanation for the origin of "skins" is likely to the one provided by the Web site The Straight Dope (www.straightdope.com) in attempting to answer the question:

"The skins game supposedly originated centuries ago in the holy land of golf, Scotland. ... According to legend, furriers arriving in Scotland from other countries, having sailed for months in leaky boats with other smelly sailing men, icky stacks of decomposing hides, rats, and other privations, would, instead of looking for female companionship, a bath, or a decent meal, opt for a round of golf before heading into town.

... (T)hese furriers gambled their pelts or 'skins' on golf and the name stuck."
The biggest problem with this story is one of logic. Would furriers who'd been at sea for months, possibly longer, really head for the golf course before heading to a pub or a brothel? We find that very difficult to believe.

It's also difficult to believe that anyone spending months trapping animals for their hides, and months more on the sea sailing to and from distant lands, would gamble their livelihood. They could take those pelts to market, after all, then gamble a little bit of the money they made.

As The Straight Dope pointed out, this version of the origin of "skins" is a legend.

Another explanation, more believable but not as frequently offered, is that "skins" derives from the word's connotation of "skinning" an opponent. If someone lost a hole for a large amount of money, they might be said to have been "skinned alive." This meaning of "skin" is well-known, if no longer common in everyday use. It means to fleece or swindle someone.

To us, this explanation makes much more sense than the one involving furriers in 15th century Scotland. But this explanation is not accepted by everyone, either.

Which brings us to one more possible explanation. This one is offered by the Library of the United States Golf Association in its FAQ. Given the source, it seems the most credible, even if their explanation doesn't hold the same charm as the first one, or make as much sense as the second one.

The USGA Library writes:

"As a format of golf gambling, 'skins' has been around for decades, but really only became popular after the creation of 'The Skins Game' in the 1980s. In other parts of the country, 'skins' is also known as 'cats,' 'scats,' 'skats,' or 'syndicates.' Of these, 'syndicates' seems to be the oldest term, going back at least to the 1950s, and possibly earlier. It has been suggested that 'skins,' 'scats,' etc., are simply shortened, simplified versions of the term 'syndicates.' "

We'll grant you, that's not the most satisfying response. According the USGA Library, the term goes back only to an antecedent from the 1950s. That rules out Explanation No. 1 from above. And the USGA's take, while an etymological one, focuses on a different etymology than that offered in Explanation No. 2 above.

So we'll simply conclude by repeating what we said earlier: Given the source, the USGA's explanation seems the most credible, even if their explanation doesn't hold the same charm as the first one, or make as much sense as the second one.

UPDATE: A new contender has emerged, courtesy of Paul Cary, director of the Jones Music Library at Baldwin-Wallace College in Berea, Ohio. Paul turned to the Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd Edition, and discovered this in the OED2's entry on "skins":

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From the definition of skin, n
2 b. U.S. slang. A dollar.

1930 [see BY prep. 33e]. 1950 [see LIP n. 3d]. 1976 R. B. PARKER Promised Land xx. 121, I got a buyer with about a hundred thousand dollars ... a hundred thousand skins.
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The possibility that the golf use of "skins" derives from its serving as slang for "dollars" certainly makes great sense, given the nature of skins games (where "skins" often represent a dollar amount). However, it does conflict with the USGA's "syndicates" theory, which can't be dismissed since the USGA says that "skins" are called "syndicates" in some regions. But given that two different words are in use, perhaps both explanations can be valid.

Answer 2

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Answer 3

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The term skins has several origins. Some say that way back trappers who spent many months trapping for furs (skins) would come into a town to sell them but first they would play a round of golf and wager on their skins.

Another reasonable explanation is to be playing for something and win and consider skinning alive or stripping your competition of money.

A skin in golf is is anything won on a golf hole with the lowest score if in fact all agree to play for skins, which is normally money. As allready said if 2 players tie for a hole the skin is carried over to the next hole and so on untill all skins are won . There could be a playoff or even a chip off to see who wins the carried skins.

I hope this explaines it.

Leon

Answer 4

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Answer 5

A skin is simply the person with the single best score on a hole. If two or more people tie then that skin is carried over to the next hole, and your next hole is worth two skins and so on and so on. Each skin is worth a certain amount of money and their are 18 possible skins in a round of golf. Example: 1 skin is worth $1000.00 so you can do the math.
On the local golf course a skin maybe $1.00 each but you may have 15-20 guys/gals playing. So if one person gets a skin all the other people have to pay him/her a dollar each( $14.00 - $19.00). The Pro Tour they have sponsors that donate all the money that is paid out. I hope this isn't to confusing...

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in golf,why do they call it the skins game and what is a skin?

Answer 7

Each hole is worth a certain amount. Whoever wins the hole wins the 'skin', or whatever the hole was worth (example: money). If there is no winner for a hole, the value of the hole is added to the value of the next hole, and the winner of that hole wins the 'skin' from not only the hole that he/she won, but the hole before that nobody won.

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