As far as the police shooting in NY goes, what do you think would have happened if the victims were white?

Question

This is for Tom, calm down youngster. Compared to some of the questions on this site, this one is mild. By the way, I asked the question, I didn't say how I felt. I think the cops were completely in the right, 50 shots, or 5 shots, they feared for their lives.

Answer 1

they woundnt get shot...LOL so true

Answer 2

Just in case you are not informed the Police Officers in this case were Black and Hispanic. The question you ask shows very little imagination. Why don't you ask why the perp ran down a Police Officer and crashed into a van full of Police Officers twice. I hate to even waste time answering your question but if you were ran into by a vehicle and now the vehicle was ramming into a vehicle filled with your friends and you had the means to stop it you would do the same thing. Try to be more original with your questions. Anyone can ask that question. It is easy to judge when you don't have all the facts.

Answer 3

It doesn't matter what color they are. Let me tell you. If I were in there shoes and in a club like that and for what ever reason they left, upon getting in their car some other men approach them and pull guns.....I would throw the car into whatever gear I could and hit the gas, and guess what folks, I would be dead now too. Because, and I am just guessing here, that is probably when they hit the unmarked police car and the first shots rang out....

50 shots....... for nothing......50 shots....


But what about the old lady in Atlanta folks. The cops busted down her door, she was (in one report 92 and in another report 88) once again the police did not identify themselves and the old lady opened fire with her gun after they busted down her front door. The police said they had a tip that there were drugs in the house. Yes the lady lived alone.... She hit 2 or 3 police officers before they opened fire on her and ....yes you guessed it folks.....they killed her.
They aren't saying that they had the wrong address, but they are saying that no drugs were found in the residence, that's because there aren't many 92 year old ladies that deal drugs. But then again, I haven't lived in Atlanta for 20 years, so maybe it has changed.

Answer 4

The question here should not be would this have happened if the victims were white- we all know it would not have happened. These police officers used eccessive force- did anyone ever think maybe the victims didn't know these people approaching them were cops. Who's to say they didn't get scared at these black and latino men pointing guns at them which made them speed off trying to escape danger. This may have been the case THINK ABOUT IT- It's late, your in your car, black and latino men approach you pointing guns- What would you do?

Answer 5

They would have been shot.

Ask the 2 black cops and the 1 Hispanic cop that were involved in the shooting.

Another play at making something about race and not about the actual situation?




Maybe Bloomberg should have a car come at him in a percieved threat and see what he expect's his NYPD Bodyguard to do.

Answer 6

Same result.

Believe me when I say that white guys walking around Jamaica, New York at 4:00 A.M. would have been victims of a very unpleasant situation long before they even left the vicinity in their car. They would have been like a wilderbeast crossing the river among hungry crocs.

Given the same circumstances, they would have been blown away. However, protests such as those we have been seeing would not be happening.

Answer 7

I think people should stop making everything into a damned racial issue. I understand that the guy was black, and maybe this wouldnt have happened to a white person. However, you cannot sterotype all cops and all law enforcement to target black individuals and discriminate against them. Most law enforcement is equal. Do not let a few bad apples ruin the whole equal image of the law. Unfortunately, no offense, minorities are making everything a racial issue now because they know it is an easy target for litigation and they can get more sympathy from the public by using the "race card" as a defense.

Answer 8

They would have been shot and odds are good no one would have cared because no one could cry racism, it wouldn't make a good news story, Al and Jesse wouldn't be spouting off, the involved officers would be back out protecting the public and by now every one not personally involved would have moved on. It certainly wouldn't have been the top story nationwide.

Answer 9

Read this

November 28, 2006 -- YESTERDAY, a Latino reporter asked Mayor Bloomberg why he had surrounded himself solely with African-Americans at a press conference to discuss the horrible police shooting incident in Queens. Why were there no Latinos present?
The question elicited a gasp-inducing explanation from the mayor: There were no Latinos on the stage with him, Bloomberg said, because he had only "invited elected officials and clergy from that community" in Queens - the community near the site of the shooting.
Oh? Perhaps my eyes deceived me, but hadn't he, only a few minutes earlier, walked into the press conference with the Rev. Al Sharpton - whose church is in Harlem, in Manhattan, far away from the South Jamaica "community?"
Al is from one kind of "community," all right - the community of race-baiting cop haters who emerge whenever a tragic incident allows them to pick up a megaphone and seek to promote racial discord for fun, profit and media attention.
And here is the mayor, treating this vicious miscreant who has done more to inflame tensions between the races in this city than anyone in modern history as a credible participant in a dialogue intended to reduce racial tensions.
And lest you think Sharpton has changed and grown and matured, consider what he was doing only hours after the shooting - commandeering press attention, screaming through a megaphone, doing his best to take a potentially explosive situation and pour kerosene on it in hopes that he might get some light flashed on him from the resulting fire.
That's Sharpton. He can lose weight and wear a nicer suit, but he's still the same rabble-rouser he always was.
The question is, just what the hell is Bloomberg doing?
The mayor said one astounding thing after another during his press conference yesterday. At one moment he waxed embarrassingly philosophical, opining that "no one can imagine what it would be like to be of a different ethnicity."
Oh, really, Mr. Mayor? I imagine that people of a different ethnicity from mine might, for example, bleed when they are shot just as I would, or love their children just as much as I love mine, or would feel grief-stricken to have a family member shot to death on the day of his wedding.
Bloomberg certainly believes these things too. But in his quest to try and calm matters in the city, our mayor found himself resorting to the worst kind of sodden race cliché - for even a politically correct race cliché is still a noxious race cliché.
On a more practical note, the mayor informed the city yesterday that it was not NYPD policy to allow officers to shoot their guns when a car is being used as a weapon against them. He said this in response to the emerging story of the shooting - according to which an undercover police officer found himself in the path of a Nissan Altima being driven by Sean Bell, the man killed in the shooting.
Supposedly, the Altima twice tried to run the cop down outside a seedy nightclub in South Jamaica.
The NYPD may not have a "policy" permitting an officer to fire in such a situation, but it doesn't need a "policy." As my colleague Bob McManus wrote in reference to the Amadou Diallo case seven years ago, "The statute on the use of deadly force by an on-duty police officer is quite clear: It is lawful if an officer reasonably believes his own life to be in danger."
Indeed, the use of deadly force under life-threatening circumstances is lawful in very nearly every circumstance you can think of - even if you're not a cop.
If the initial accounts are accurate, what happened on that Queens street was another example of an incident involving police and guns that ran horribly amok in a fantastically short period of time - with more than 50 shots fired in 10 seconds.
The mayor basically said he couldn't imagine how such a thing could happen, even though the initial account that is emerging - someone inside the strip club flashed a gun, a cop followed him outside, a second man yelled out that he was going to get another gun, things got very confusing, the cop and his fellow officers ended up firing - makes at least some sense of how such a thing could conceivably happen.
And while saying he doesn't want to prejudice the outcome of the investigation, Bloomberg did exactly that: He made it clear he thinks the police officers were in the wrong even though there's no clear evidence yet that they were.
Of course, this description of the Nissan Altima being used as a weapon may simply be a fabrication meant to protect the cops. If so, the mayor got it right.
If he didn't, then he got it very wrong.
And in allowing Al Sharpton to turn this killing into a photo op, there's no question: Bloomberg got it wrong. And shamed his office.
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Answer 10

The results would be the same. Police are not out there to be run over or have their cars smashed. They don't look at color when a car is coming at them, they just want to live. If the driver had been white & the shooters black would Al Sharpton be out on the street yelling "racism"? I think not.

Answer 11

First off I'm from hangem Texas, and racial profiling happens alot down here. It's sad, black people cant drive around in there luxurious cars without beening harassed. Me and my cousin have been questioned outside of what pertains to a moving violation. This stuff is real, and it still exist. CRASH didnt make it to the box office for nothing. I have friends who work for the prisons and the state. And minorities are always targeted and poorly represented. So just because your neighborhood is singing "WE ARE THE WORLD", doesnt mean that other's are singing the same tune.