Don't scare me with the whole hell bit because that is more of a detterrent and an invitation.
2006-11-27
18:49:48
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Don't quote bible quotes and don't give me links.
I want to hear your words and your logic.
2006-11-27
18:50:44 ·
update #1
I said no hyperlinks.
2006-11-27
18:51:53 ·
update #2
I'm not trying to undermind the Christian faith at all. I'm really curious to find out why people believe in such a religion and now I know.
If you say "I don't need proof to believe" than you're just following blind faith.
No offense.
2006-11-27
18:55:57 ·
update #3
Ok, I'll play your games, just because you might somehow think that you prove the existience of "god",
That is only have of what Christianity is, because it mostly revolves around Jesus.
2006-11-27
19:01:45 ·
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I would like to reccomend a good book written by a former atheist. he was the legal editor for the chicago tribune and an investiagtive reporter. In his book the case for the creator he talks to a number of people with respectable credentials in different science fields and comes up with some pretty interesting material. The book is called the case for the creator by Lee Strobel. Thee is another older book which you could probably find with a little effort. It is written by an other former athiest who reconsidered the claims of Christianity after having rejected them. It is called mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis served as a philosophy tutor for four years and was elected a fellow of Magdelen college Oxford, where he served as tutor of English language and literature for 29 years. he has writte many theology based books as well as the best selling childrens series chronicles of Narnia. There is another excellent book called can we be good without God by philosopher J.P. Moreland It is an excellent read although I have no idea how difficult it might be to obtain.
2006-11-27 18:58:30
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answer #1
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answered by Edward J 6
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I believe science and religion are compatible. This is how I answered my biology professor's question on evolution/creationism on my final exam:
The Bible states that God created the world in 7 days.
Evolutionists believe we decended from apes/monkeys.
I say both are correct. The Bible says God's time is not our time. One day's time as God created the world was not necessarily 24 hours. I believe that each day of those 7 was a new step in the evolutionary process. This theory explains dinosaurs and cavemen. Neither existed at the same time. The dinosaurs became extint. Cavemen evolved later from apes and Adam and Eve were the first humans evolved. Other cavemen evolved and that is how there were women for Cain and Abel to produce children with.
2006-11-27 19:05:20
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answer #2
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answered by Barb 2
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Science, mathematics, logic and philosophy have been used by Christian apologists to defend the existence of God. You may not want to hear an external source, but the arguments of William Lane Craig are pretty convincing. But again, there are rebuttals or contrasting views, and because it seems that you are an atheist, you may want to believe the rebuttals against Craig's arguments. Anyway, it is very wrong to believe that the Christian cannot be backup by science, for there is no way that science can disprove or prove the existence of God. It can only be logical to believe that there is God who created us, than to believe that 0 x nothing = everything. As Jose Rizal a polymath once wrote:
"To doubt God is to doubt one's own conscience, and in consequence, it would be to doubt everything; and then what is life for?"
Yes you are right that it is not logical to quote passages from the Bible to prove that God exists or that He can be rationally believed, because the Bible in itself has no subject or chapter or passages devoting to the argument of the existence of God. Rather, it assume that the reader acknowledge Him that He exist before you understand God's message. That is why almost all non-believers reject the God of the bible even if they read it intellectually.
There are so many philosophically inclined people and mostly brilliant minds who acknowledge the existence of God. Example of these men were CW Lewis, and as I have noted men like Jose P. Rizal and the living apologist William Lane Craig to name a few.
Peace...
2006-11-27 19:24:20
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answer #3
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answered by Allan R 1
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You say if we can use science and logic you will be a Christian?
No you won't. It isn't up to us. All we can do is tell you the good news. After that what happens is between you and God.
Here is the good news:
1 God requires sacrifice for sin.
2 Jesus became that sacrifice.
3 Now we have the opportunity to be at peace with and in the presence of God.
2006-11-27 19:02:38
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answer #4
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answered by nancy jo 5
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I AM A BIBLE STUDENT
First of all, the most dumb person has got to know that much time is involved and much age in every thing we see in space and that the earth is very old as well.
Man was the last thing created, man as we know it now as that is all we are told about
and we continue in imperfection, with a life short and full of trouble and face death.
We have a book to explain this.
All perfection, eternal life, the life sustaining earth all perfect is LOST from Eden.
There are plans to make it as perfect as it was before but man of earth and angels of heaven are involved, the angels in heaven are all sons of God, he created them as he said the them and to Jesus Gen.1:26 "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness."
Billions of years had passed when earth became a focus for habitation, thousand of years had passed before Adam.
Adam was created 6,072 years ago and Rev.20:1-6,12,13 is the 1000 years that all is to be made perfect again, so 7,072 years is accounted for.
Religious beliefs: When the bible was translated IT WAS NOT MEANT TO CAUSE WAR,
and in 1611 CE most all the beliefs taught existed, grave to us is hell to the bible, fire raining down from heaven is Sodom and Gomorrah. Angel do not die and the everlasting fire is for the devil and his angels that must be destroyed. Hell fire is a place where those ungodly people sacrificed their children to their gods in Tophet or Gehenna or the valley of the son of Hinnom. It is death and burial by fire or burial by fire as it became the city dump.
There will be a resurrection of the just and the unjust. All will see everything. Just as you can not help being here, you will be there.
2006-11-27 19:14:30
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answered by jeni 7
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The Apostles are proof.
There is ample historical evidence (from independent sources) to show that the Apostles died (except John) horrific deaths for preaching and not denying Christ.
The Apostles were eyewitnesses to Christ's suffering and resurrection.
If I told you that I was christ and offered you a million dollars to die for that lie, would you do it??? Of course not!!!
My point is that the Apostles would not have endured severe torture and death for a lie. They knew it was the truth; because, they were there and saw it first hand.
If you deny the historians, you also deny world history, by that thinking..nothing can be true.
I personally won't hold my breath for you to become a Christian. I don't know whether Christ has chosen you to believe or not. Nonetheless, I wish you no malice.
2006-11-27 19:02:07
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answered by Anonymous
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religion, science and logic can go along well..
it is our human mind that boogles us to make this three aspects methods of explaining bit each other, or the other two against one..
there's no doubt science proves with proofs and logic with true statements. that is why it takes science to prove that the pieces of the Bible, which is the core of Christianity, a true document. science, praticularly carbon dating i guess, makes it clear that some acclaimed pieces of the Bible are wrong.
logic is used to justify the correctness of the Bible thus logic is not against Christianity. a lot of Logic subjects are being studied at Christians schools..
it is those closed minds that blinds others saying they are into science or logic and are against Christianity.
these three correlates..
2006-11-27 19:12:20
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answered by ayvann 2
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THe order in which God created the earth and the plants, then the animals and then man fits = if you look at evolution that is the order- for Darwin it is a theory- and the missing links are missing- because they are not there- there has been many farsts- that fits- there is proof a the great flood and Noah's ark on Mt Ararat in Turkey- the bible itself it a great history book= check it out- creacionistas.com covers evolution and science in english and spanish- good info-please check it out-D
2006-11-27 18:55:41
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answered by Debby B 6
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Atheists: If you can use science and logical reasoning to back up your religion than I will be Atheist ?
Thanks for the two points.
BTW look up Georges LaMaitre(Jesuit priest, father of the Big Bang Theory) and Gregor Mendel(monk and father of Genetics), they could possibly teach half-baked / half-educated atheists like yourself a thing or two about the origin of the Universe as well as give them a balanced approach to genetics and mutation
AS THEY SAY, A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS A DANGEROUS THING.
2006-11-27 18:58:09
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answered by defOf 4
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pathetic.
you sit staring at a screen hoping for salvation?
there is someone next to you waiting for your love.
Oh, nevermind. Me too.
Okay. Step one: well, after some thought, I've forgotten what step one is. Something about finding a still place, emptying your mind (seems to me I failed that one) and concentrating on... um...say well angels.
Step two: (You know I'm making this up, right?) Listen to Muse's "Stockholm Syndrome" while watching NMHK's video clip of "Last Exile". Quite revealing.
Can I start over? That Muse thing kind of slipped in.
2006-11-27 19:02:27
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answered by Shinigami 7
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