Curious question about Scientology...?

Question

Several times over the past few years, I've heard and read the Xenu story presented as actual testimony of the beliefs of Scientology. Unfortunately, I haven't heard any actual Scientologists coroborate or refute it.

To any Scientologists out there, is the Xenu story a real teaching of Scientology or not?

If it is, do you personally believe that the story is allegorical or actual?

I've also heard that this information is not revealed to Scientologists until they have gained sufficient experience within the organization. Could you please include the amount of time that you've been a Scientologist when responding?

Thank you.

Answer 1

Well, now that the resident Scientologist has spoken, I thought I'd toss my answer into the pile and see how you like it. I'm NOT a Scientologist but I've spent a good long time researching the topic. I don't know if that qualifies me as an answerer, but I thought I should share my knowledge anyway.

Yes, the Xenu story is a real teaching of Scientology. If you'd like to read the Xenu information for free, please visit this site (it has all of the various Scientology doctrines available to peruse for free): http://xenu.net/archive/OTIII-scholar/

I doubt the story is allegorical. Scientologists, all of them, are taught to treat L. Ron Hubbard's word as absolute, infallible and unchanging. They are not to interpret, they are not to modify, they are not to assume that he meant to say or imply anything but what he wrote. Thus... I doubt he would have written a "metaphor" for his flock since they would be programmed never to treat it as such.

In fact, in a recorded lecture, Hubbard alludes to the devastating effect of Xenu's genocide as being completely true:

And it is very true that a great catastrophe occurred on this planet and in the other 75 planets which formed this [Galactic] Confederacy 75 million years ago.

And yes, again, you are right, this information is not revealed to Scientologists until they have reached OT 3 (Operating Thetan level 3). For more information on what an "OT" is, I suggest first reading the Wikipedia article explaining the meaning of "Thetan": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thetan and then reading the article on Operating Thetan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_Thetan and you could also see what the official Scientology site has to say about "OT": http://www.scientology.org/en_US/religion/catechism/pg041.html

Answer 2

MMMMmmmmm....
12 years, not a clear, not a OT but highly knowledgeable. My answer is in point 9.

In my own words this is Scientology:

1. What is true for you is what you your self observe to be true.

2. Man is his spirit not his mind or his body.

3. The spirit creates his own mind. Please do not confuse the mind with the brain that is a physical thing. The mind is composed of mental image pictures as explained in Dianetics. These pictures serve the spirit to give him knowledge and experience. These pictures are composed of energy. The energy in the picture can affect the spirit. You can feel better by remembering something that you like or angry by remembering something else. These emotions are actually energy waves emanated by the picture. You can actually feel pain by remembering a pain memory. Sometimes this pictures are accompanied by ideas or considerations. Lets supposed that you father beat you mom up in front of you. Your father was the dominating figure so you might conclude that you have to act like your father in some situations. This is what we call in Scientology an aberration (a conclusion that is impose to you by a mental picture). This picture is what we call a engram; A pain memory that affects your judgment and free will.

4. You can discharge the energy in this pictures through communication. This is Dianetics Auditing and his the oldest of hundreds of Scientology techniques used to improve the individual.

5. The Spirit creates his own emotions. Are you happy? Are you sad? Are you depress? Maybe you think that something external of you is creating your emotions. Maybe you believe that you are sad because you had a bad day. Or maybe you believe that you are happy because you had a great day. And this might be true. But who made the decision that you had a good or bad day? You did. You decided if life was good or bad, and adjusted your emotions to respond to your own consideration. You created your own emotion.
Some people are born with everything they want and are still unhappy. And others are born into humble means and are happy. What's the difference? The only real difference is each person ideas and considerations.
Scientology uses hundreds of processes to order to help the person get a better understanding and a better outlook in life by using his own observations.

6. Scientology Ethics: Scientologist base their conduct on a non-denominational code of conduct. http://twth.org/eb/?id=16664j

7. Scientology and God. Scientology acknowledges the supreme being and promotes the individual search for closeness to God trough religion.

8. Scientology vs Psychiatry. Psychiatry believes that self awareness, feelings, love and faith is merely cellular activity. Basically they think that you are your brain and you are not in charge of your behavior but your cells are.This is a totally materialistic point of view that denies the spirit and God. Psychiatrist is simply a pseudo science because is based in principles that are false.Psychiatry have never proven that any "mental illnesses" (like they call it) has any connection with a physical illness. Any Neurologist will tell you that there are no medical test to identify a "Mental Illness". All Psychiatrists base their diagnosis on opinion and opinion alone.
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Happiness, exhilaration, depression and psychosis are states of mind, not diseases. All what you have to do to stop being depress is change your state of mind. How you do that? By changing your ideas and considerations. Scientology provides the tools to achieve a better state of mind in accordance with your own point of view.
Also Psychiatrist excuse the most horrendous crimes as mental illnesses. This is actually creates a sense of irresponsibility in society because it tells people that they are not responsible for their actions. Second they promote that drugs are the answer for your problems. This message promotes the use of drugs to find release from life and creates the current drug addiction problem in society. Drugs will only give you temporary release but will never solve the source of your problems.And actually drugs will keep you away from finding a true spiritual release.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4437051883726295326&q=psychiatry&hl=en
Note: Scientology doesn't have anything against Psychology or Neurology only Psychiatry.

9. Scientology and aliens. The story of Xenu is just a fable like the story of "Jonah in the Whale" in the bible. Fables are not intended to be taken seriously. The story of Xenu doesn't have any significance on Scientology beliefs.

Scientology is so advance and so different that people can't understand it. People think that they know everything there is to know about life. And when they see Scientology they jump to conclusions when in reality they don't have a clue what are they talking about. The reality is that man attacks what he can't understand. That's why Scientology gets so much bad press.

Answer 3

Scientologists believe that once you're in contact in an incident of "discomfort and unconsciousness" that any words spoken will substitute into "subconscious instructions" to the guy. they provide thought to that a new child unearths the beginning painful and is going partly unconsciousness, so any words spoken for the period of beginning could substitute into subconscious instructions. occasion: the mummy says "Get out of right here!" to somebody who bugs her for the period of exertions and whose presence she not needs. the toddler takes interior the "command". Later in life, the youngster is often "leaving" places and would not understand why. can not shop a job, can not shop in a relationship, etc. and continuously experience like he desires to "get out of right here". it somewhat is their thought. in case you pick to study greater on the subject of the "thought", study Dianetics: the admired technological information of psychological wellness. whether, Dianetics is considered to be junk technological information. or perhaps L. Ron Hubbard, Jr. (the son of the founding father of Scientology and the author of Dianetics) wrote that his dad made the finished difficulty up. in spite of everything, he substitute right into a technological information fiction author and alter right into a competent storyteller. Too undesirable human beings offered into it. no you would be able to kick Katie out of the cult for speaking or screaming for the period of childbirth, yet she'd be heavily "counselled" formerly the different births to be certain it would not ensue returned. And confident, Tom C could have reminded her to stay quiet, yet does not have cared "who else" could have overheard. this is the toddler he could have cared approximately. you're precise on the subject of the "cult" word. i don't propound the comparable theories as I suggested above. I in basic terms wrote it to respond to your question of "why" Katie could have been suggested to not communicate or scream for the period of childbirth.

Answer 4

im not a scientologists, sorry!!! i just read your question> tnx