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i just watched a documentary last night about certain gospels wwere removed from the bible and that it proves that the bible was alterd. and they had a good point. if it actualy were adam and eve in the beginning then we must have been the product of major rampant incest and we would all be brother and sister. however in the bible it says that among other things incest is a sin. the gospel were found in a cave in 1947 they were scriptures that looked like they were exiled. what do you guys think?????

2006-11-27 03:05:41 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Say I knew you, (say I am your best friend) and I wrote a book about you, and several other people tried to join in and write things about you that were not true. Would I include this in my book about you? Then, there is your answer.

2006-11-27 03:10:55 · answer #1 · answered by newcovenant0 5 · 4 4

The Nicean Council created Christianity to be a religion where the Church had control over the people. They made the religion up to suit their own needs. For 300 years, there had been no concept of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. G-d was G-d. The church made this up at this time, too.

The removed any writings giving women any power. They removed any writings that did not say what they wanted the people to believe.

I think, if you read about Constantine, you will find to him Christianity was a power play-what he could use in ruling. He did not accept Christianity till on his deathbed.

Your comment on Adam and Eve and incest. Incest was not a sin at this time. Jewish theologians accept the fact, that the Adam and Eve story was about just one group. There were others on the earth, too.

2006-11-27 11:19:27 · answer #2 · answered by Shossi 6 · 0 0

Well there were several reasons that the "gospel" you are referring to are not part of the cannon.
1) They lacked apostolic backing. All of the gospel were either written by one of the 12 disciples or was told to the author by an apostle.
2) The cannon contains books that were written in the first century.
3) The other books not embraced by the early church.
4) The content. The contained heresies.

Most of these other gospels are written in the second century and not by apostles. Often someone would write a book and attache an apostle name to it that was dead in order to give it more of a persuasive power. The early church did not recognize them and didn't even consider them to be scripture. In the other "gospels" heresies are put for that are repute else where in the Bible. Also some NT scripture is even referred to as scripture by an apostle. ie Peter talking of Paul's letters.

There is a lot more to say but this is a brief discussion.

2006-11-27 11:17:39 · answer #3 · answered by icthyus05 3 · 0 2

To the best of my knowledge, it was due to the fact that not all the gospels fit into the patriarchal paradigm.

Karen King - a professor of divinity at Harvard - wrote a wonderful book entitled, "The Gospel According to Mary Magdalene." Check it out to see what I mean. From an article from the Harvard Gazette,

"I wanted to rewrite the history of early Christianity without writing backwards, without looking at it as a process that culminated inevitably in the Christianity we know today. How did things look to the people who were around at that time? How do you go about inventing a new religion?"

It is a book King has been thinking about and working on for at least 20 years, ever since she was a graduate student in Germany studying under Hans-Martin Schenke, one of the first editors of the Nag Hammadi manuscripts.

Nag Hammadi, a town in Upper Egypt, is near the site of a chance discovery whose impact on the study of Christianity is still being felt. In 1945 a farmer digging for fertilizer found a large clay jar containing dozens of fourth century papyrus books whose contents amazed scholars of the early Christian period. There were previously unknown gospels, collections of the sayings of Jesus, stories about Mary Magdalene portraying her as an important apostle and teacher, alternative creation myths, and poetry about a female deity.

The manuscripts had come from a nearby early Christian monastery and apparently had been buried by monks in the fifth century to prevent them from being found by church authorities engaged in suppressing heresy. What was particularly astounding was that some of these works had been known previously only through the polemical writings of early church authorities. Now scholars had a chance to read the actual texts these "orthodox" writers were condemning."

Take a look! It might open your eyes!

2006-11-27 11:24:39 · answer #4 · answered by gjstoryteller 5 · 0 0

You have just now heard of the dead sea scrolls.we have know of them for many many years.They are certainly not the only thing not in the bible , We have the gospel of Thomas, the gospel of Mary Magdalene, the gospel of Phillip, that is only naming a few.Someone had a agenda .There wanted to keep things hidden from us.why Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.there stories
are near identical.The truth is out there!

2006-11-27 11:18:27 · answer #5 · answered by gwhiz1052 7 · 0 0

The Dead Sea Scrolls were found in a cave in 1947.

The council or Nicea made the decision as to which books would constitute the Bible

2006-11-27 11:07:22 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

The gospels of the bible were not written until 120 years after Jesus died. The bible was not compiled until 325 ad when they took 80 different authors and they out what they didn't like. All parts of the bible were destroyed in 400 ad and then re-compiled in 525 ad, again taking hundreds of different works and throwing out what they didn't like. King James also re-wrote the bible throwing out what he didn't like. That is your word of god.

2006-11-27 11:19:00 · answer #7 · answered by bocasbeachbum 6 · 1 0

Yep, it's all thanks to Nicean Council... I think everybody knows the bible was altered, Anyway, we may know most of old testament thanks to Jews (so, it's their holly book) but from Jesus... it's all altered, the four accepted Evangelia (at least for Catholics) where Matthew, Marcus, Lucas and John... were written after Jesus' death, none of the evangelist where apostles or Jesus friends, so was written about what they listened that people talked about him, and some of Apocrypha's Evangelia which were avoided by Catholic Church were supposedly written during Jesus' life... And we must remember that most of Christian Church, nowadays come from the Catholic so we cannot know what it's true, and what is invented/adopted to make us think in a way...

2006-11-27 11:22:37 · answer #8 · answered by esther c 4 · 0 0

Those verses were removed because they were not part of the most reliable Bible manuscripts. They were added sometime after the Bible was completed. The trinitarian passage of "the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one" was one of those passages. In modern Bibles that passage has been removed.

2006-11-27 11:11:59 · answer #9 · answered by LineDancer 7 · 0 1

Let me guess.I bet one of those gospels was the gospel of Thomas?What about the gospel of Phillip?
We've all heard it.Contrary to what the documentary says,the books were never used in the original bible,therefore it was never altered.You can't alter the bible if it were never there to begin with.

2006-11-27 11:11:02 · answer #10 · answered by Derek B 4 · 1 1

The TV show you saw was interesting, but it's a leap to think that books were "removed". The gnostic texts were never "in" the canon....not of the whole church.

But my answer needs to included this:

THE COUNCIL OF NICEA HAD NOTHING TO DO WHATSOEVER WITH THE CANON OF SCRIPTURE. IT HAD TO DO WITH THE ARIAN HERESY AND THE CHRISTOLOGICAL CONTROVERSIES THAT AROSE BECAUSE OF IT.

THIS IS THE ONLY STATEMENT OF FAITH BY THE FATHERS OF THE COUNCIL:

THE PROFESSION OF FAITH OF THE 318 FATHERS

We believe in one God the Father all powerful, maker of all things both seen and unseen. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the only-begotten begotten from the Father, that is from the substance [Gr. ousias, Lat. substantia] of the Father, God from God, light from light, true God from true God, begotten [Gr. gennethenta, Lat. natum] not made [Gr. poethenta, Lat. factum], CONSUBSTANTIAL [Gr. homoousion, Lat. unius substantiae (quod Graeci dicunt homousion)] with the Father, through whom all things came to be, both those in heaven and those in earth; for us humans and for our salvation he came down and became incarnate, became human, suffered and rose up on the third day, went up into the heavens, is coming to judge the living and the dead. And in the holy Spirit.


And those who say
"there once was when he was not", and "before he was begotten he was not", and that
he came to be from
things that were not, or
from another hypostasis [Gr. hypostaseos] or substance [Gr. ousias, Lat. substantia],
affirming that the Son of God is subject to change or alteration
these the catholic and apostolic church anathematises.

2006-11-27 11:14:01 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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