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Just the facts please. Show me historic proof outside the bible that Jesus existed.

2006-11-27 00:48:12 · 33 answers · asked by sfumato1002 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

33 answers

There is none.

2006-11-27 00:50:06 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 4 5

There is no actual proof that he existed. I believe, however, since legends and myths are often based on actual occurrences, he probably did exist. there is historical proof of King Arthur and Hercules, so why not Jesus?

Robert Graves, a brilliant anthropologist, had written that Hercules was an actual person, but he was not the handsome semi-divine hero we picture today. He was short, stocky and probably very smelly. He was a violent alcoholic who was capable of clubbing someone to death for waking him out of a drunken sleep. He probably murdered his wife in a drunken rage, but the story goes that the Goddess, Hera, put him under a spell.

Not to say that Jesus compares to Hercules at all, except that I believe that he probably existed, and well after his death, divine qualities were added to his legend.

2006-11-27 00:57:20 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Maybe someone called Jesus once lived on earth, and stories of him passed down through time. Maybe he didn't turn water into wine, etc, but I guess it is a sort of hope for people, and the bible almost a manual how to live life.

What I find most bizarre if he once did walk the earth, if he came back today and claimed he was Jesus the Son of God, he would be put in a straight jacket!

2006-11-27 00:58:18 · answer #3 · answered by Tom 2 · 3 0

1) These are the forces of gravity and electrons. We do not know how they came to be but we know they exist, and they dont prove the existence of a God. 2) When Darwin talked about natural power he meant that the composition of all nature (trees, animals etc..) not a supreme being. Even if he was talking about God it wouldn't prove anything. 3) The Quran is Iron age barbarism which plagiarized the Torah and the Bible but it isnt the first to supposedly predict something. Also if it accurately predicted something it would be big news I am sure...

2016-05-23 09:23:12 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

First, you must explain what you mean by "Jesus". In Latino culture, the name is fairly common even today. If you're referring to the mythological man who was born of a virgin, taught the worship of one God, healed the sick and raised the dead with a touch of his hand - there are quite a few such tales, none any less credible than the others. Appolonius of Tyana was one such, who, according to his story, also was convicted of sedition against Rome and was executed. He was said to have risen from the dead, walked amongst his desciples and to have risen to heaven in physical form before their eyes.
The Romans were fanatics about keeping written records, many of which still exist. Among those records are mention of a number of men whose descriptions match that of the Jesus with which Christians are familiar. So yes, there is historic proof of the man's existance. There is, however, no historic proof of the Divinity of any of them, nor of their supposed miracles. So you are reduced to this: there were several wandering holy men back in the day, who preached virtually the same message. Most of them never heard of the others. You must choose whether to believe any one of them was the miraculous healer/son of god/third part of a heavenly trinity, or whether they all were simple devout men hoping to teach good behavior and attitudes to fallable mankind.

2006-11-27 01:08:03 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Jesus existed and he was the Son of the Living God. The fact that the Christian Church in all it's forms exists in the world is proof. How else could the son of a backwater carpenter from 2000 years ago be still remembered today.

2006-11-27 00:57:32 · answer #6 · answered by Paul K 6 · 2 2

There is a Talmudic tale about Yeshu, whom some say was Jesus. This is from quoted from http://judaism.about.com/od/beliefs/a/jesus.htm


According to the Talmud, Yeshu was the son of a Jewish woman named Miriam who was betrothed to a carpenter. "Betrothed" means she was legally married to him, but she was not yet living with him or having sexual relations with him. The story says that Miriam was either raped by or voluntarily slept with Pandeira, a Greek or Roman soldier. Miriam then gave birth to Yeshu, who was considered a "mamzer" (bastard), a product of an adulterous relationship. The Talmud describes Yeshu as a heretic who dabbled in sorcery and lead the people astray. Later, the Sanhedrin (the Jewish "Supreme Court") ordered Yeshu stoned to death and his dead body was hung from a tree until nightfall after his death, in accordance with the ancient Jewish punishment for heretics.

While some believe there is no connection between the Talmudic Yeshu and the Christian Jesus, others believe there is a connection. The main inconsistency between the Talmudic and Christian story is that during the time that Jesus was killed, the Romans ruled and the Sanhedrin did not have the power to impose the death penalty. Thus, some Jews believe that today's popular Christian ideas about Jesus are based on a melding of the Talmudic story of Yeshu and the historian Josephus' writing about Jesus, which included his execution by the Romans.

After Jesus' death, a group of simple fishermen and artisans, called "Nazarenes" after Jesus' hometown of Nazareth, became his followers. Jesus' brother James, headed the Nazarenes in Jerusalem for approximately thirty years, until 62 C.E. when he was also executed by the Romans. The Nazarenes observed Jewish laws, and they believed that Jesus would return soon to inaugurate God's kingdom on earth. Thus, Jesus was a founder of a religious movement, or more specifically of the sect of the Nazarenes within Judaism.

The Nazarene sect, however, did not last more than four centuries. The Romans killed many Nazarenes, for being observant Jews, during the Jewish revolt of 70 C.E. The faith of the remaining Nazarenes, who awaited Jesus to return and save them, was greatly tested by the Roman conquest.

With the weakening of the Jews and Nazarenes, early Christianity, led by Paul, flourished in the major cities of the Roman world - Rome, Antioch, Alexandria, Ephesus and Corinth. Christianity claimed Jesus as its founder and also as God incarnate. >

2006-11-27 00:57:40 · answer #7 · answered by Sweetchild Danielle 7 · 3 0

Josephus, the Jewish Historian described the Life, and Ministry of Jesus from a Historical Standpoint.

There are also Roman Documents, Letters, that speak of Jesus. His Historical Existence is an irrefutable Fact.

2006-11-27 00:52:48 · answer #8 · answered by Minister 4 · 5 2

Is it important whether Jesus existed or the message Jesus represented? God is Love & that's all there is. All there is to know is in your heart. Only, your heart is inaccessible for all the overlapping layers and layers of crap put their by others and accepted by you. It is not important what is in any bible, only thing important is you doing the work to be able to access your heart. Hebrews 8:10

2006-11-27 00:58:56 · answer #9 · answered by Richard15 4 · 1 0

There are historical records that say Jesus existed. But, this does not mean that he came to earth as the son of G-d. He was a preacher who lived 2000 years ago.

2006-11-27 00:55:29 · answer #10 · answered by Shossi 6 · 4 1

While many have argued that this supernatural god being doesn't exist, it is entirely possible that someone named Jesus, born of someone named Joseph and someone named Mary, existed. It is also entirely possible this Jesus was a carpenter and did help many people. And even still, there could have been many other Jesus's born at or around this time that history forgot. The "Bible" is not historically accurate. Most if not all of it is non-fiction written by men and voted upon by men as to its content.

2006-11-27 00:56:19 · answer #11 · answered by gleemonex69 3 · 1 3

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