Those of you who call yourselves scientists.....?

Question

You claim not to believe in God (Allah) because a scientist cannot possibly believe in a Higher Power, science hasn't proved it yadda, yadda, yadda.....
So why would, Albert Einstein, one of the greatest scinetific minds have said "anyone who doesn't believe in God is NOT a scientist"?

Read the Quran, its FULL of scientific information. here's a link if anyone s really interested:
http://www.islam-guide.com/

Motombo - I was aiming my question at atheists. Not non-muslims. And FYI, not only Muslims call God Allah, so do Arab Christians as Allah simply means The God.

Oh, & my point was not that Albert Einstein was infalable. No human is, obviously. My point was merely that if such an accomplished scientist believed in God, then surely a belief in God does not go against science?

Answer 1

Prove G-d exist.

Answer 2

You're talking about Atheists.

Scientists are merely people who perform scientific research, which is the study of nature. God is supernatural (quite obviously), so He would fall outside that field (hence 'science hasn't proved it, yadda yadda yadda'. But the opposite is equally true, science hasn't disproved it). Lots of scientists still believe in God. There's nothing unscientific about believing in God; however if you believe the earth is 6,000 years old you would have to dismiss known facts.

I don't believe Einstein said what you claim; however, as an Atheist (not a scientist), I don't rely on what authorities (in this case, according to you, Einstein) tell me. They can still be wrong.

Answer 3

Albert Einstein was one human being. Human beings have a habit. They are not perfect and make mistakes, plenty of them. The best of us are wrong at least 50% of the time apparently-source of statistic unknown, but the point is he was a physicist. He was great with his concepts of space and time and only quantum mechanics was as great a step forward as his relativity was. Just because he was right about much of physics does NOT mean he's necessarily right about God. That would be poor argument and wishful thinking to go with such reasoning. There are many scientists who do and many who do not believe in the existence of God or other supernatural creation type being. Many would be the first to say that their knowledge doesn't qualify them specially to "know" this above anyone else. Their knowledge qualifies them to a reasonably sound opinion of things in their field and relating fields. It is tempting as a believer in anything religious or mystical to jump on any example as a supporting fact of evidence. I have this in my own ability to cause healing, so I'm more skeptical than many about this.

Answer 4

it's very unfortunate that there are a lot of people try to substitute religious ideas for scientific break through or scientific development. science has given us such new deep inside into the working of the world. we can understand by and large how it is the universe is expending, how galaxies and stars are formed, and the nulear processes that allow our sun to shine, bake the earth, radiation, heat, and light. To try to substitue something for the powerful science that we've developed to understand these things is a travesty. It's not the point of science to role out the religion context, but no way should we allow older religious ideas to somehow displace the fantastic scientific archivements over many years.
when you can't address something in the natural world, if you try to bring in some God ro religion explanation because we haven't yet figured it out. that is often called the god of the gaps. we use god to fill the gaps of our understanding, and from that point of view, the more we understand the more god is necessary going to be pushed out. the more we understand how the world came to be and how life evolved and formed, we are not gonna need the theological explanatioin.

Answer 5

Einstein also said these quotes:

"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms."

"Scientific research is based on the idea that everything that takes place is determined by laws of nature, and therefore this holds for the action of people. For this reason, a research scientist will hardly be inclined to believe that events could be influenced by a prayer, i.e. by a wish addressed to a Supernatural Being."

"I don't try to imagine a God; it suffices to stand in awe of the structure of the world, insofar as it allows our inadequate senses to appreciate it."

Answer 6

einstein also said :
god can only do as i say
or something along those lines.
i was born into a muslim family, and people consider me muslim ,indeed if i must have a religion then it islam.
BUT
the difference 1-is i cannot honestly say i believe there is a god anywhere.
sometimes i do , other times i dont.
2- i refuse to believe virtue is sent down from god, it is rather completly a man made idea.
3- if there is a god, then i do not believe he has spoken to anyone , let alone siring a son.
jesus regretfully was born out of wedlock and hence, respectfully, the most respected and famous bastard in history.
mohammad was a kind, altruistic individual who paved a way for the wellbeing of a whole nation through his ideas, which, in order to help spread them in a time when there was no mass media, he had to attribute to god. and he didnt lie either, since even poets claim their works have been inspired to them by higher entities.

Answer 7

remember, einstein was a jew--why do many muslims, not all of course, hate jews? i don't understand the anger of islam. can you explain that? also, there are many scientists who believe in god (jesus or yahweh or allah, they're all the same god) and you generalize as if all scientists are the same--this is the problem with many religious people--they try to make things neat and in a convenient package so they can explain life.

Answer 8

God is the greatest Scientist who never self acclaim as scientist but had challenge those believer of God to know and to find the meaning of name called as ALLAH.

Only those who know ALLAH is the real scientist as Allah is not an Arabic word even Arab not understand the meaning of Allah until God reveal the meaning of Allah in Arabic language as written in Koran.

Answer 9

Well, your statement is full of lies, but for the comment on Einstein, you are completely incorrect in its contextual basis. Einstein was a pantheist, and when he refered to god, he was refering to the universe and its complexity, not a personal god like Allah.

Answer 10

Nobody has said that scientists do not believe in god, in fact I knew many who do.

From a scientfic point of view their is no certainty either way. I happen to believe god doesn't exist but I will never know for certain, just as you will never know for certain that he does.

Answer 11

You just contradicted your own argument.

You make it seem as if all people who call themselves a scientist are atheist. There are plenty of pious scientists. In fact, I'd say most of them believe in God in their own way. Just because they don't call him "Allah" or pray 5 times per day doesn't make them an atheist.