Many people would look onto this as a prove of God's love towards humanity, for he let his own son down to redeem humanity. Is this fair? To put things simply I would say that if I break a plate but you pay for it, I am certain next time I shall break another plate. Can you guy not see this?
2006-11-25 15:40:10 · 20 answers · asked by george 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Mu point is, do guys accept somebody else´s punisment to get away with it. Is this fair?
2006-11-25 15:47:54 · update #1
Adam was a perfect huiman being. When he (and Eve) sinned against God, he (Adam) passed his sin down to the entire human race.
Jesus' death paid for our sins because his blood was the right "price": perfect.
Perfect blood brought us down, and therefore only perfect blood could redeem us
And no, it's not "fair", it's loving, and it was necessary, because we were not capable of doing it ourselves. And people who truly accept Jesus' sacrifice will desire to please God, not take advantage of his mercy. God can read hearts. He knows who is sincere and who is merely trying to get away with something.
(btw...i think that was a great question)
2006-11-25 16:51:06 · answer #1 · answered by soren 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Gods made a covenant with his friend Aberham. Aberham was faithfult to even offer his son to God. To seal that covenant God had to offer his Son. Jesus is the blood of that covenant offered by God. This covenant was with the jewish people. Who are Aberhams people. Yeat the whole world had sinned. God is just and rightious and has allowed all people to enter into this covenat by Jesus blood has atonement of our sins. God has reached out to his creation because we were in sin and could not reach up to a holy God with out blood.
So you say you do not understand. Many don't. So i am not suprised. Let me put it another way. A man that once worked as a railroad bridgeman had one son he was 5. This mans only job was to lower the draw bride when the train came. His son was playing by the gears one day and just as the train with 320 people came to the bridge his son slipped into the gears of the bridge. That man thought for a second. If he saved his son those 320 would die. If he allowed his son to die those 320 people would live. Some of them would become great men or woman and do much good, some would be worthless and some would never be much more then they were when they were born. Yeat he lowered the draw bridge and his son paid the price of mercy for all these people who know not the mercy that they had recieved that day. The price of a father heart, the price that had been paid that day none of the people in the train even knew. But that father knew the great price for there lives. That is a true story.
And that is just like the story of salvation.
2006-11-25 15:58:49 · answer #2 · answered by adsdetailing 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The God of Old Testament is a blood-thirsty God, hence it is no wonder he lets an innocent man so cruelly die. Innocent man only in human terms. Jesus was not the epitome of tolerance as he is being portrayed, Buddha and Socrates stand above him, as you can see him cursing people to hell those who did not listen to him. However, it is only a myth that has a theological backing and not things as they are.
Coming to the impact of this flawed doctrine, surely not every one would break the plate another time, but many would, many infact do, since a person can repent as many times as he wants, which makes it a very weak concept.
2006-11-25 19:00:25 · answer #3 · answered by Sohed 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I believe it went something like this. A long time ago, like in the old Testament days, people paid for their sins by killing doves and goats and stuff. But, it sort of got abuse--like saying uh oh, I just killed Ahab so I'll go offer up a goat and that will take care of it. Well, this wasn't doing the trick. Sort of lost its true meaning and God saw that. Sooooo, God's Son was sent to be the "offering" and the alter of offering was the cross. He died to pay for sins. One thing for sure, there is no way in hell that I could buy enough goats and chicken to pay for all of mine. Whew. I did some SERIOUS stuff. Good thing Jesus paid the price. That is what it is all about. You gotta pay for committing sins and if you can't, someone will have to.
2006-11-25 15:50:55 · answer #4 · answered by Tony T 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
It's your take on this that's in error.
And it's much more complicated than simply breaking a plate.
If your entire family was taken as slaves, and were being held captive and forced to do evil things by a cruel master, under pain of death, wouldn't you risk your life, or even sacrifice it, in order to save them?
This is what Jesus did voluntarily, in complete agreement and cooperation with his Father, as well as the Holy Spirit.
It was the ONLY way that mankind could be rescued from eternal slavery to Satan, sin, and death ... and nobody else was qualified for the job.
2006-11-25 18:11:04 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
I don't believe in Christian upside down justice by proxy either.
the Internet may work fine with proxies but if somebody commits a crime I don't want his son or his mother serving time for his crime that is not justice and since the fake word of god states one of god greatest joys is his love of justice he should take notice as well as his fake followers . seems proxy tells the story
of fake beliefs in the land of nowhere.The Extraordinary nature of Jesus's rebellion doesn't always follow the exploitative additives to his life and beliefs that verifiedly corrupt early churches profess.
2006-11-25 15:58:34 · answer #6 · answered by dogpatch USA 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
How can you be so close to the message of the Gospels, and not get it.........?
The answer is in your own writing.
Let me ask you, are you really the kind of person who would keep breaking plates on purpose if you knew an innocent man, who loved you, was willing to pay for the damage you would do?
2006-11-25 15:42:35 · answer #7 · answered by dave 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Do you not think God was a bit of a scammer?I mean,He let his Son go through the agony of the cross,rather than himself,yet God gets all the glory.Sounds like just another politician to me.
2006-11-25 19:00:26 · answer #8 · answered by michael k 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
If Jesus died on the cross how is it that various ancient documents mention Jesus's activities as late as 70 A.D.
2006-11-29 03:48:45 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think I see what you're saying but I think Jesus asserted the truth in such a way as to lead us all eventually to that condition where God's will is done and the Kingdom of God is created on Earth. He leaves room for us to take advantage, but then that is our choice and we are denied our place in the Kingdom.
2006-11-26 03:27:04 · answer #10 · answered by mesun1408 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋