Does it make more sense that Jesus was born in late September or early october, and not December 25?

Question

I believe Jesus was born during the Jewish feast of Tabernacles.
It is happy celebration and a time of joy and rejoicing. Jesus is our joy. This makes sense.

The Feast of Tabernacles, also called Booths, comes on the fifteenth of Tishri (September-October), the seventh month according to the Jewish (biblical) calendar.

Why? John the Baptist was born during Passover. The angel Gabriel came to Mary to tell her about Jesus in Elizabeth's six month of pregnancy. (luke 1:26)

So three months later John the Baptist was born. Add 8 days for the Passover celebration. Then 6 months less 8 days later, you are SMACK in the middle of the feast of tabernacles. A feast of Joy, comes Jesus. That is why all the rooms were gone in Bethlehem too.

PLUS, the Christmas day and the tree are all Pagan of origin and have nothing to do with Jesus. (Jerimiah)

It is not wrong to celebrate Christ's birth any day. Just trying to let you know, he was born in the feast of joy!

thoughts?

amen.

Answer 1

I believe He was born during the Fall season. I don't believe that Jesus was born during the Winter and especially not on Dec. 25th. I think telling people this is ultimately ... lying. If one chooses to celebrate the life of Jesus being born ... fine. I just think it should be made clear that it's not His birthday (Dec. 25th) we celebrate but basically that He was born unto us to save us from our sins.

Answer 2

We do not have complete records from the period in question and there were several different callendars in use at the time all of which used "fudge factors" making precise dating almost impossible.

There were censuses taken by Roman officials every 8 years or so. Sometimes the censuses themsleves took several years to complete. We have reasonably established a census MAY have occurred ~6 AD. The previous one would have been ~3BC (there was no year 0). New evidence seems to indicate that Herod the Great may have died in 1 BC instead of 4 BC as most scholars had previously thought. So all of the dates do seem to add up.

The fact is that the entire story is very murky and we really cannot verify the story independently of Scripture. But by the same token the anti-Christians cannot DISPROVE it either.

Given the fact that the Gospel of St. Luke is inspired by the Holy Spirit and therefore infallible and inerrant, I would be inclined to give it the benefit of the doubt in this case.

Answer 3

I think He was born during the "Feast of Trumpets" Rosh Hoshanna,the Jewish New Year,late Sept. early Oct.
When Jesus comes again there will be a "Trumpet and the sound like an Archangel"and the dead in Christ will rise first ...etc.
It probably was fall because in winter the shepards pen their flocks up at night .It's too cold to stay out in the fields then.So,Rosh Hoshanna,Yom Kippur,or Tabernacles are all around the same time,with in 30 days of each other so either would work.

Answer 4

I think it is important to consider WHY the Christmas tree and December 25th are important to Pagans. It is because of the huge symbolism of that time of year, and of the symbolism of the evergreen. Throughout Fall and Winter, things are getting colder and darker, until things seem to reach an ultimate low right around December 25th. But it is a pivotal time, when slowly, things start to get better. The sun starts to shine longer, and the night gets shorter. This is a symbol of the victory of good over evil. The Evergreen is, well, ever green! It does not die, and thus serves as a symbol of hope. It is a reminder that things will become green (good) again.

I don't see anything wrong with adopting these symbols. They still have their meaning, and there's nothing bad about them. Pagan does NOT equal "wrong" or "bad." Ask yourself WHY they did what they did, and it will make sense.

Answer 5

I have heard that this is the most logical theory out there. The time of year is at least correct, as accurately as can be determined. Jesus was born in the year 4 B.C., and no later than October, for the shepherds were still out in the fields. After October, the nights were getting too cold to keep the sheep out overnight.

Answer 6

Jesus was most likely born in the spring because the cattle were calving and that is in April- May. Some have even put His day on April 17. Don't know how scholars came up with that.

You are right, it is never wrong to celebrate His birth.
That is why the season is celebrated and not because it is a "Holiday".

Merry Christmas and God Bless

Answer 7

We as Christians don"t worship a day.All that really matters is the fact that we believe that Jesus was born of a virgin,and came that He might give to man the gift,(yes I said it "GIFT" )of salvation.That is why we give gifts,to recall the gift that Jesus gave to us.It has nothing at all to do with Dec 25th, other than the fact that it gave many something to find fault with.But as usual they have missed the real message and written their own.He that has ears let him hear what the Spirit saith.Thanks for the info.

Answer 8

Some good food for thought you've posted and got me googling.

I found this interesting article in the url below.

As for Jesus.. I celebrate his birth everyday; including 12/25.

Answer 9

The Birth of Jesus

[19:22] When she bore him, she isolated herself to a faraway place.

[19:23] The birth process came to her by the trunk of a palm tree. She said, "(I am so ashamed;) I wish I were dead before this happened, and completely forgotten."

[19:24] (The infant) called her from beneath her, saying, "Do not grieve. Your Lord has provided you with a stream.

[19:25] "If you shake the trunk of this palm tree, it will drop ripe dates for you.

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*19:25 Thus, Jesus was born in late September or early October. This is when dates ripen in the Middle East to the point of falling off the tree.
http://www.submission.org/suras/sura19.htm

The True Founder of Christianity

The teachings of Paul, the true founder of Christianity, cannot be found anywhere in the teachings of Jesus or in those of prophets before him.
http://www.thetruecall.com/home/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=25

http://www.hyahya.org/

Today's Christianity Not Jesus' Religion*

[5:72] Pagans indeed are those who say that GOD is the Messiah, son of Mary. The Messiah himself said, "O Children of Israel, you shall worship GOD; my Lord and your Lord." Anyone who sets up any idol beside GOD, GOD has forbidden Paradise for him, and his destiny is Hell. The wicked have no helpers.

[5:73] Pagans indeed are those who say that GOD is a third of a trinity. There is no god except the one god. Unless they refrain from saying this, those who disbelieve among them will incur a painful retribution.

[5:74] Would they not repent to GOD, and ask His forgiveness? GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

[5:75] The Messiah, son of Mary, is no more than a messenger like the messengers before him, and his mother was a saint. Both of them used to eat the food. Note how we explain the revelations for them, and note how they still deviate!

[5:76] Say, "Would you worship beside GOD powerless idols who can neither harm you, nor benefit you? GOD is Hearer, Omniscient."

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*5:72-76 In John 20:17, we see that Jesus taught that he was neither God, nor the son of God. Many theologians have concluded, after careful research, that today's Christianity is not the same Christianity taught by Jesus. Two outstanding books on this subject are "The Myth of God Incarnate" (The Westminster Press, Philadelphia, 1977) and The "Mythmaker" (Harper & Row, New York, 1986). On the front jacket of "The Mythmaker" we read the following statement:
" ...Hyam Maccoby presents new arguments to support the view that Paul, not Jesus, was the founder of Christianity....it was Paul alone who created a new religion through his vision of Jesus as a divine Saviour who died to save humanity."

http://www.submission.org/suras/sura5.htm

Answer 10

The actual date of Dec. 25th means nothing to me.
The event of Jesus' birth that we are celebrating on that glorious day, means everything to me!
Merry Christmas! Whenever you choose to celebrate it!