How do you explain Genesis 22:12?

Question

After the test with Abraham God says "now I know" that you fear God".

1- "now" means that he didn't know before. God is not omniscient
2- "I" shows that he was not making Abraham test himself, but He himself was making the test, because He didn't know. God is not omniscient.

Which part of the "know I know" you don't understand?

Answer 1

drop the extra k mate

Answer 2

I understand the whole thing. God needed to find out, okay?

Maybe you think you are bringing up a good point, but let me tell you this: God regretted ever having made humans. And so the test of Abraham was important.

At least God had one guy he could count on.

As far as being omniscient is concerned, who ever claimed that for God? It plainly says in Genesis that God changed his mind several times, and was prone to many emotions.

But do not let that cause you to think any less of God; remember that he is omnipotent. He might not do much, but he has the ABILITY to do much.
So be careful what you ask on Yahoo Answers in case he's looking.

Answer 3

I believe that just like Job's test it was a test not only for Abraham but to teach the world down through time that he would obey God.That story was an example of God giving Jesus to the world and would be told over and over. God tested Job but it was also to show the devil that someone did obey Him. God does know what will happen from the beginning to the end but He still does not take away our choice.

Answer 4

I think that sometimes we are too quick to argue over texts which are a translation from the original Hebrew. We do not know whether the word for now in Hebrew had two meanings, like the Latin "iam" which can be translated "already" as well as "now". It may have an idomatic usage, as it does in a number of European languages.

It is absurd to argue that God is not omniscient. He had it all planned. He knew in advance what Abraham would do and indeed had made His covenant with him on that basis. He had arranged for a suitable sacrifice to be caught in the thicket to replace the sacrifice of Isaac, which He would never have allowed to be made. This tale of Abraham and his willingness to sacrifice his son is a "typos" or foreshadowing of God's willingness to sacrifice His own Son. All planned, all foreknown. The big mistake is to assume that God is, like us, caught in time. He isn't. With God everything is present. Therefore when God uses the word "now" (leaving aside the semantic issue mentioned earlier) it does not have the same meaning as it does for mortals with a finite existence.

Answer 5

God knows everything that is, was, and might be. He cannot be sure of what WILL be. Otherwise, how could we have free will? God may have strongly suspected the depth of Abraham's faith, but he could not KNOW (and neither could Abraham) how far Abraham was willing to go until Abraham actually made the choice.

Answer 6

No, God did not know. You will find with further reading that there are a lot of things God did not know. Yes it is logically inconsistent to have an all knowing God that is ignorant of facts.
God also had to go looking for Adam after the apple feast and could not find him, God had to call Adam out of hiding. Definitely not all seeing. It goes on. From the beginning to the end.

Answer 7

God knew Abraham would be faithful; Abraham had to go through the test anyway so that he would be sure of it himself.

Answer 8

Abraham's faith was made complete. Abraham "now" "knew" that he feared God, and he knew that God knew it.
God is omniscient-He does not need to know anything-He knows all.
This is recorded for our benefit-not God's. Go back and flesh it out in ancient Hebrew, then translate it however you want. There is no problem here.

Answer 9

ABRAHAM AND THE ANGEL OF THE LORD

Gen.22:12 said the angel of the LORD [ the LORD is Father of Jesus ], " Now I know thou fearest [ respects and has faith in and is a friend of Heb.11:8-10, [ 17-18 below ]; God to obey him ], as Job at all cost and even to trust him to restore life back into Isaac as the Promised Land heir producer. Abraham is the father of us all, because Jesus is the true seed Rom.4:16; Heb.2:9,14,16; Heb.9:14-16; He gave his word and life on it.

Abraham at Gen.12:4 was age 75, 427 after the flood. Isaac is heir to the Promised Land covenant given Abraham at age 75.
Abraham was age 100 when Isaac was born 452 after the flood and at age 25 years at 477 years after the flood Gen.22: 1-14 happened and Sarah age 90 when Isaac was born, dies at age 127 Gen.23:1; when Isaac is age 37. Gen.25:7,9,17,20,26; Abraham died 527 after the flood, Ishmael is age 89 of 137 and Isaac is age 75 of 180, Jacob is age 15 of 147. Shem died 502 years [ of age 600 ], after the flood. Gen.11:10,11; Noah died 350 after the flood Gen.9:28,29;
So Abraham at 427 after the flood and Exo.7:7; 12:40,41 and Gal.3:16-18; 430 years later, Moses and half a million Heirs exit Egypt at 857 years after the flood, Num.33:38,39 Aaron died the 40th year and Deut.37:7 Moses died the 40th year. 897 years after the flood. Joshua 5:6,10,12 ends the 40 years and has crossed Jordan 898 years after the flood, Judge jair dies Judges 11:26 300 years later at 1198 after the flood and 1212 Before Christ. [ Samuel is 450 Acts 13:20 + 857 at 1307 after the flood and 1103 before Christ, Acts 13:21; Saul is 1117 less 40 1077, 1Ki.2:10,11; life of king David born 1107 is 30 when Saul dies in 1077 and 40 years king 1037 before Christ king David dies ];
Solomon is 1Ki.6:1 480 after Moses dies at 897 is 1377 has 36 [ of 40 ] years to 1413 after the flood and 997 before Christ and the people in the New Testament knew all about these people and their time as shown.
Paul said," Heb.11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, Heb.11:18 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: Heb.11:19 Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure."

Answer 10

as you know when things get translated sometimes the correct meanings are lost, you need to get a bible that has the original text, i think that might help you to understand, if understanding is your goal here. if it is not then don't bother because no amount of explaining is going to convince you because your goal is not to understand but to disprove Gods omniscience. which can not be done because He is omniscient

Answer 11

Many time God tests His people to prove TO THEMSELVES what is really in their heart.

You misunderstand Scripture because you have no relationship with God my friend.

You remind me of this Scripture:
which speaks about people like you:

"... They that are unlearned and unstable do wrestle, as they do other Scriptures, to their own destruction". (II Peter 3:16)