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My friend wants to, or says he wants to, join the Marines but then found this article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6999745

And now has changed his mind because he thinks if he has a problem and wants out they will try to do something bad or run him into the ground. Do they do that? Whats a good way to convince him to go? Basically his fear is going, not liking it, and wanting out and he wouldn't be able to?

2006-11-25 04:20:05 · 11 answers · asked by aj lewis 1 in Politics & Government Military

11 answers

It's people like your friend, should he join, to whom we own thanks for being free in this country. He must make a decision to go or not. It's not like trying a new hobby and saying, "no, I don't like this after all."

Why do Americans put down the very institution that has given them the liberties they enjoy? Asinine.

P.S. anything from MSN I tend to question. Their a media megaphone for liberals

to DJ: I am not implying anything such as you have put on me! Don't put words in my mouth.

2006-11-25 04:30:52 · answer #1 · answered by Saved 3 · 2 2

Being in the military is dangerous. The job involves killing people and breaking things, and the training for that job, if it's any good, is dangerous and difficult, and people sometimes die. That is as it should be, but it's not for everybody.

That said, what happened to that recruit, if that report is true, is tragic and the training NCO should be severely punished. The Marine Corps needs to send a message that there is no tolerance for abuse of that kind.

Saved: are you implying that the media should never publish reports critical of the military? Our institutions work because they are scrutinized - it's a shame if this incident serves a negative public relations functions for the Marines and deters a few recruits, but is part of the punishment for the services when the chain of command breaks down and incidents like this occur. But first, it's newsworthy BECAUSE the Marines run such a tight ship and this kind of incident is so fare. And two, the impact of negative PR and the scrutiny of the media are some of what keeps our institutions in line in the first place.

In the Air Force, the fact that the Academy has been a seemingly endless PR disaster has spurred a lot of change in how that institution is run. People who should have been fired have now been fired. The Marines have always been more open to media scrutiny, preferring a "warts and all" kind of coverage that has been very much to their credit.

You dishonor the true American values that the men and women in our armed services fight for when you make ridiculous statements like yours.

Finally, CNN tends to the left, Fox to the right, and MSNBC is pretty dead center, within the tolerable spectrum of US media opinion, which, as Charles Krauthammer has pointed out, is played from the 40 yard lines, not goalpost-to-goalpost as it is in Europe. Fox is unique in that it has abandoned the US journalistic tradition of objectivity and has embraced the more European model of point-of-view or analytical journalism. For those of you not in on the joke, "fair and balanced" is meant to be ironic - when you interview a White House representative about a policy initiative, and then bring on as the "opposing" point of view an analyst from the Heritage Foundation think tank, the very organization that first advocated the policy initiative being discussed, well, come on now. That's just funny.

2006-11-25 05:07:57 · answer #2 · answered by DJ Cosmolicious 3 · 1 0

Tell him to grow up and act like a man instead of a spoiled child. Life is a series of tade-offs. If he wants the benefits of an action, whether it's joining the Marines or anything else, he's going to have to make commitments in exchange and keep to those commitments. It's part of being adult. It's part of being a man. If he thinks life comes with an escape clause, he's going to find it much more unpleasant in the long run than anything the Marines could do to him.

2006-11-25 05:05:18 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I have been a Marine for 7 years and his was an isolated incident. Your friend needs to realize if he joins he isnt gonna have alot of options on what he wants to do, as far as following orders. if he signs up he needs to also realize the quickest way out is to finish his enlistment, and not try to find and excuse (i.e. drug, fake medical problems) those are the things i see all the time i deal with entry level Marines everyday (less than 6 mos in) and they try everything to get out early and it doesnt work its just makes it more miserable. but on the other side of the spectrum i think it is a great oppritunity and he will get to do things normal people only can dream about. but with any branch of the service once you enlist they have your *** for 4 years. and the quickest way out is 4 years.

2006-11-25 04:35:03 · answer #4 · answered by usmc_punk 1 · 2 0

The Military is a commitment, its not a 9-5 jobs that you can just quit. There is a lot of time, money and energy that goes into your training and every one that is in the military is needed. You can't just quit. If that is the arrangement your Friend wants, then his rethinking the idea is a good thing.

2006-11-25 04:52:13 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

They call it a contract for a reason, and it is identical in principal to any other contract that you might sign (purchase contract, service, employment, etc.) You will never know until you go.

I made my descision to go in the Marines early in life (about 12 or so), but the closer I got, the colder my feet got. When it was finally time for go/no go, I reached down deep, and decided that it would be worse for me not to go and always wonder, than to go and fail.

2006-11-25 05:30:33 · answer #6 · answered by The_moondog 4 · 1 0

sure your chum c an enlist in the marine Corps. in certainty she would have the capacity to do a "conditional launch" if she needs to get out of the army now. she would have the capacity to ought to attend boot camp yet lower back. Any branch going into the Marine Corps has to redo bootcamp yet Marines can swap branches and not ought to attend bootcamp lower back. inspite of the undeniable fact that if the conditional launch or if she gets out of the army and then enlists in the Marine Corps she would have the capacity to start back over on the backside of the rank shape. If she went to a diverse branch then she might have the flexibility to maintain her rank. the sole regulations are that she has to leave the army in good status, weight below administration too via Marine standards.

2016-10-17 12:38:25 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Tell him to join the air force, they treat their people better than any branch, clothe and house and feed them much better! Career training is so good !

2006-11-25 06:55:59 · answer #8 · answered by r j 2 · 0 0

the only reason they would do some of that stuff is because after you sigh the papers if u leave thats treason to the country. if he really wants out he will just have to deal with it because he signed those papers.

2006-11-25 04:58:33 · answer #9 · answered by ? 2 · 0 1

Tell your friend to join the US Army!!!!

2006-11-25 04:40:08 · answer #10 · answered by Vagabond5879 7 · 1 1

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