When I used to go to church, we always heard the parable of the ten minas (coins) Luke 19, but I just re read it and realised that every time I've heard it, the last verse has been omitted. Verse 27 says: [jesus said] "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be a king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me."
Now you can understand why I'm slightly confused, not a very jesusy thing to say is it? Can someone explain a) why he said this (i looked up the context in my mums study bible, but this verse is ignored entirely, like it doesn't exist) b) why when i used to go to church would they not read this out.
2006-11-25
03:53:46
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Laptop Jesus, at a guess, I would say you mean Psalm 137:9
Happy is he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.
2006-11-25
04:01:33 ·
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The Bible has changed quite a bit over time and by different people. It would be easy to switch one or two words around and get a completely different meaning.
I would suggest you try looking at different Bibles and see the differences. Maybe an older version might not have had that in it.
That line sounds to me like Jesus was justifying the Crusade, which I highly doubt he would have.
2006-11-25 04:00:44
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answered by tofu 5
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It seems Jesus was telling a parable about a nobleman, and what would happen, how people would be treated under a monetary system ruled by men. I think it was more a warning of what was to come, and not a guideline or a standard to live by.
This reminds me of Jesus warning that there would be divisions among church brethren and even family members rejecting one another. This is not to say that Jesus was "instructing" us to divide into conflicting camps; but just a warning this would occur, even in his name. Many people seem to abuse this concept to justify condemning and dividing by the sword instead of applying Jesus' teachings to bring spiritual peace, unity in Christ, and true reconciliation. Likewise I find many of the references in the Bible are warnings of what to expect in the tumultuous process of spiritual development, even severe trials, tribulations, disastrous plagues and unjust persecutions, until humanity reaches the ideal stage of spiritual maturity where all injustice is forgiven and overcome, and death and destruction are no more.
2006-11-25 12:13:42
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answered by emilynghiem 5
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Hi, you really got me thinking about this one and I ruffled through my Bible and it is in there,now I am a Catholic and the Bible that I found this missing verse in is an early Catholic addition of the Douay-Rheims Bible, and having re-read the whole passage it strikes me that Jesus through this King is warning us about those in charge of teaching His word,Priests/Ministers and by their neglect of working to spread the message no matter what the peril, have become comfortable and lazy will be severely reprimanded, if I am right, would this not explain taking this verse out, to save face?
what do you think yourself as I may be well of the mark here.
2006-11-25 12:22:40
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answered by Sentinel 7
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I'm not sure why the verse isn't discussed in the church you used to attend; my church talked about this a while ago.
The passage is about investment. It all boils down to putting to use the gifts God gives us. Would you invest your money with someone who does not produce a return on investment? Not likely... God's no different.
I've pasted the story using The Message which makes it easier to understand.
2006-11-25 12:06:15
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answered by Anonymous
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Sometimes there are verses in the holy book that make is sound really bad, even "in context." Sometimes they even appear to contradict everything that comes before.
The priests don't talk about it, because it makes people doubt Me! They do it for your own good dear.
There is a lovely bit in Psalms that I'll bet you've never heard before too.
(edit) Bless you My child! You have read that bit of the bible. Errr, how are your kids these days, anyway?
2006-11-25 11:58:34
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answered by Laptop Jesus 4
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It contradicts with the "Jesus is 101% LOVE. All heart" thing the church made up, which I have a feeling the started after the Crusades, to improve their image.
Just guessing.
2006-11-25 14:07:31
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answered by Anonymous
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Recorded at John 14:2-3 are the words Jesus said to his disciples on his last night with them: “I am going my way to prepare a place for you. Also, if I go my way and prepare a place for you, I am coming again and will receive you home to myself.” In line with this, Jesus’ illustration at Luke 19:11-27 describes him as “a certain man of noble birth [who] traveled to a distant land to secure kingly power for himself and to return.” This would take considerable time. But “his citizens hated him and sent out a body of ambassadors after him, to say, ‘We do not want this man to become king over us.’”
It is like that today. There are people today who claim to be Christian, but they reject “the King of kings” (as Jesus is described at Revelation 19:16) in favor of effecting their own imperfect human rulerships. Like the “citizens” of Jesus’ illustration, these will be severely punished.
So many people are in love with Jesus the babe in the manger and Jesus the man who gently preached love. But they totally ignore the fact that Jesus put out the money changers from the temple in his pure zeal for God. They totally ignore that this is the King of God's kingdom and as the warrior who takes the lead in enforcing the laws of that kingdom, he brings destruction to those who refuse to live the ways of peace - the way of God. Don't parents fight for their children? How much more so will the most High God, by means of his son the King, fight for his people who worship him and desperately need him?
Hannah
2006-11-25 12:10:14
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answered by Hannah J Paul 7
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This parable was a prophecy that when Jerusalem would be destroyed (70) that the servants (rebels) who opposed the king (Herod) would suffer a worse fate.
2006-11-25 12:06:24
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answered by Anonymous
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Because the bible was written by man, this was likley someone's attempt to spread fear to those who did not convert.
Why your church doesn't read it, or discuss it is obvious, it looks contradictory to what Jesus would have preached.
the bible is not the word of God.
Amen
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2006-11-25 11:58:22
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answered by Anonymous
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read what is going on before jesus tells that story. see his culture. he was speaking of the end times, like when he returns to take up the people who have choosen him, the ones that reject him, he will kill. yeah i think that is what he is talking about. ask at church. ask the big guy who talks, he should know. they are normally cool guys. if yours is a jerk, ask at any other church, they like to talk to random folks. peace you my friend
2006-11-25 12:11:19
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answered by Mrs.Me 3
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