Was Joseph Smith a true profit if he was a freemason? And did he apply at a methodist church later on?

Question

I heard a freemason cannot be a true christian

Answer 1

Citizens of his community also filed a complaint against his family digging holes in people's backyards looking for buried treasures. The court document still exists.

http://mormonstories.org/top10toughissues/peepstones.html

Answer 2

I know many Freemasons who are Christians; indeed, the (British) Freemasons reportedly require that members believe in some Creator or another..

But the question of whether he was a prophet is another matter. I am very, very suspicious of the guy. Ok, look at his story and try to tell me that it doesn't resemble something that some Hollywood hack would come up with!:

Joseph Smith claimed that a 'Native American' angel, Moroni, appeared to him... although, contrary to all human knowledge, this 'angel' appeared to be white, and claimed that hundreds of years ago, he and other Israëlites came from Jerusalem to America. Jesus had apparently appeared in that time. Then each and every 'white' Native American was killed-- no reason given why-- by the 'other tribe', whose faces were magically 'changed red' by divine intervention for slaughtering the 'good white' Native people of America.

This 'angel' told him that there were 'golden plates' buried near that recounted the lives of these 'white pre-Colonial Americans,' and that Joseph Smith was charged with finding them. Apparently, he did, but because the plates were 'so precious', he showed no one them. He got support from a rich benefactory, Martin Harris, a man who was 'first an [orthodox] Quaker, then a Universalist, next a Restorationist, then a Baptist, next a Presbyterian, and then a Mormon.' He paid for Joseph Smith's folly. His wife, Lucy, was very much more skeptical, and decided to hide the original pages of the Book of Mormon because, if the 'plates' were real... then he would be able to produce the self-same pages again. If he were not really translating of the plates, he would not. When confronted with the lost pages, Joseph Smith made up the b.s. story that God was so angry, he could not translate from the Lehi plate, but rather from the Nephi plate.. so the story 'would sort of be the same.'

If this story proves anything, it proves that there were still people taking advantage of rubes back in the day.

Answer 3

I will preface this by saying I am NOT a member of LDS (Mormon) nor am I a Christian; however, I have sat in Lodge with both and am proud to call them "Brothers."

Freemasonry is not a religion. We do require (at least in the Order I belong to, American Co-Masonry) a person to express a belief in a Supreme Being. That is all. We do not press beyond that. It is between that person and their Creator as to what they call that Supreme Being and how they worship.

The whole point of Freemasonry is making this world better, right here and now. It is not about getting to Heaven or even if there is a Heaven. It is about how we should treat each other: Brotherly Love, Relief and Truth. Faith, Hope and Charity. You know? Like the parable of the Good Samaritan? Ever read that? Jews hated Samaritans. They did not keep the letter of the Law. And yet, who helped out? OK.

Anyway, I have no idea whether or not Joseph Smith was a prophet. But being a Freemason does not make anyone automatically bad. Fact is, it shows initially that they want to make the world better.

And the bit about "true Christian": be careful about that. Some here will tell you Mormons are not; some will tell you Catholics are not; some will say Northern Baptists are not. You know those who say such thrive on? Hatred and chaos.

Get rid of labels and listen to your heart.

Just my two cents' worth.

A Master Mason
American Co-Masonry

Hiram Lodge (Santa Cruz, CA)
Amon Ra Lodge (Los Angeles, CA)
Sapientia Lodge of Research (Larkspur, CO)
Adamant Mark Lodge (Santa Cruz, CA)

Answer 4

Freemasons can be true Christians. He was a Methodist before he founded The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Yes, he is a true prophet and yes he was a mason. Jesus Christ says you can know a true prophet by his fruits. One of the fruits of Joseph Smith is the Book of Mormon. If you read this book, pray about it sincerely, God will let you know of it's truth by the power of the Holy Ghost.

Answer 5

smith claimed he found the golden tablets that are the basis of mormonism.
many christains are freemasons, so that doesn't matter.
smith had no reason to apply to a methodist church after founding mormonism.
he may or may not have been a prophet. only god knows for sure.
i think he was a bit self-centered, not a prophet.

Answer 6

Remember he stated Jesus apeared in his bedroom late one night and also informed him it's ok and to have plurl wives. I am sorry but if Jesus is to appear he isn't gonna state have sevral wives. That just doesn't seem rational or divine.

As far as Freemasons not being able to be Christian there is no basis of those rumours.

Answer 7

I would not dream of criticising the sincerely held religious views of others as it could only be considered impertinent, but I believe that I can help to explain the relationship between the secular religions and Free-Masonry by quoting the following:

"... as Masons we only pursue the universal Religion, or the Religion of Nature: this is the Cement which unites the most different Principles in one sacred Band, and brings together those who were the most distant from one another: ..."

This means that Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Druids, Bhudhists, Mormons, Sikhs, Jews, indeed most of the world's religions, faiths and beliefs are represented in Free-Masonry.

One of the most important reasons for Free-Masonry is to unite men from all religious or faith backgrounds.

This may be one of the reasons why individual secular religions, from time to time, see Freemasonry as a threat, or a hegemony which supercedes themselves in matters of religious doctrine. This is either a misunderstanding or a corruption of the true nature of Free-Masonry.

Free-Masons are also strictly forbidden to discuss religion or politics in their Lodges as it causes division and controversy.

So, Free-Masonry is open to all religions and belief systems.

As far as Atheists are concerned, they do not believe in "God". This is, therefore a matter for individual conscience. They may, for instance, believe in the power of Nature, regarding Nature itself as a Supreme Power or Supreme Being.

Free-Masonry does not dictate to its Masons, it is left to individual consciences when it comes to the question of religion.

Free-Masons are made Masons in their hearts, not in buildings called Lodges.

Answer 8

Many people here need to get their facts right before making a judgement. Joseph Smith doesn't need anyone to defend him as a Prophet.

Answer 9

joseph smith was the founder of the mormons,which is like a cult.and to answer the second part of you question a freemason cannot be a christian he would be contrdicting himself if he tried!

Answer 10

Freemasons dont require a religion, my old boss was one, and a total atheist, Anyway to be a true Cristian you would have to live your life so perfectly, it wouldnt be possible, no-ones that straight. I know born again Cristian's who talk like they have never done a thing wrong in their lives, Two of them are defrauding the benefits agency, nice