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the Alpha the Omega the Beginning and the End. That's God. He speaks like he's God right?

2006-11-24 03:24:49 · 21 answers · asked by Toni M 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I've calculated the number, and have determined that whoever wrote that chapter had a little too much poppy juice and drank one too many cups of wine.

2006-11-24 03:32:56 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

At Revelation 3:12, Jesus refers to God as his God. He does so four times. So no, Jesus does not speak like he is God.

If you are referring to the Alpha and Omega at Revelation 1:8, it refers to the Most High God but not to Jesus. At Revelation 1:11, Jesus is speaking but scholars recognize that any reference to the Alpha and Omega there is spurious.

At Revelation 22:12, one Bible translation inserts the name Jesus so that the reference to Alpha and Omega in the next verse (verse 13) appears to apply to Jesus. But the name "Jesus" does not appear there in the original Greek.

Also, in verse 13 the Alpha and Omega is said to be the first and the last and that expression is applied to Jesus at Revelation 1:17 and 18. Well, the expression "apostle" is applied both to Jesus (Hebrews 3:1) and to certain ones of his disciples. But that does not mean his apostles were Jesus, does it?

So this scripture cannot be used as a basis for contending that Jesus is God Almighty.

Hannah

2006-11-24 11:37:38 · answer #2 · answered by Hannah J Paul 7 · 0 0

No, Rev 1:1 tells us that Jehovah (God) gave to Jesus, who gave to the angel, who gave to John the Revelation.

So at any time in the book of Revelation Jehovah, Jesus, the angel, or John can be speaking.

John is speaking at vs 6, and John didn't believe Jesus is God.

Rev 1:6and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.

vs 7 John continues to talk about Jesus, but
you will notice that John stopped talking and the Lord God now makes a statement. (I am)

vs 8"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God,

vs 9, John starts talking again.

Jesus doesn't say anything until verse 17,

even though Jesus uses first and last, this is not the same as Alpha and Omega

because Jesus with the first one created and died ending the death that Adam started.

2006-11-27 12:34:44 · answer #3 · answered by TeeM 7 · 0 0

Jesus is God's word made into flesh. he is a part of God and came from God. if Jesus is God's word then the word was with God in the begining when God spoke the world into existance. does that make sense now.

if you say he is God then who was he praying to. why does he say i can do nothing except through the Father. why did God say this is my son in which i am well pleased. how can God die. that means there would have been 3 days without God.

2006-11-24 11:31:42 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

I don't know if you make a strong case in Revelation, but here are some scriptures that do attest to Yeshua being part of God but not the Father (Adoni).

Exodus 3:14 4 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Above is where God tells Moses to tell God's people who sent him. God tells Moses his name is I AM.

John 18:6 6 As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.

In this verse Yeshua told them I AM, he is inserted in english but left out in Greek, and they fell to the ground in praise.

Yeshua made many I AM statements in the New Testament. Here is a website that digs further into the subject.

http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-i-am.htm

John 10:30 30 I and my Father are one.

John 14:11 11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

2006-11-24 11:38:43 · answer #5 · answered by nubins 2 · 0 0

He is God the Word. Gen. 1:1 God in hebrew is Elohim-plural then see verse 26. then read 1 John 5:7 and it goes on

2006-11-24 11:31:22 · answer #6 · answered by white dove 5 · 0 0

John 8:18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

Here is the rapture in Revelations, praise the Lord!!

Revelation 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

2006-11-24 11:32:32 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

So what? This was put in his mouth by the lunatic who wrote this crazy book. Many early Church Fathers, like Jerome, felt it was a mistake to add it to the canon. I agree. It fails the "fruits" test. Historically, people who obsess about it go off the deep end, liek David Koresh and the German Peasant's Revolt of the 16th Century.

2006-11-24 11:30:35 · answer #8 · answered by kreevich 5 · 0 0

Yes, He is God, when Jesus came to the world he came in the flesh. He is God and the Holy Spirit are all one in the same being.

2006-11-24 11:28:58 · answer #9 · answered by spanky 6 · 1 0

Bible is written in a complicated language that is easily misunderstood. (Wonder why God would send such a book to the Earth) Besides, Bible has been altered by humans, and isn't what it was originally. So a lot of things there might sound like crap.

2006-11-24 11:29:19 · answer #10 · answered by Buchyex 3 · 1 0

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