AA is good but??

Question

AA is good but is morei nto religion which u need to believe in god which i dont....

Answer 1

Irina C's answer is good. I thought so when *I* wrote it several months ago:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AoqNv2P8k_pqs3bfik_zTYjsy6IX?qid=20060707140644AAMiyry

I wouldn't mind so much, but that was MY journey; I was the one who was jerked around for twenty years, worked hard to get and stay sober on my own, and got a job trying to help people avoid having to go through the same thing. I think it's wholly inappropriate for someone to claim that story for their own.

Answer 2

Man, I guess I will have to watch closely yahoo answers. You would think if someone was going to copy a story, they would at least change it enough to make it their own.

Come on folks get your own stories. I have read Rays story many times the last 2 or 3 years that I have been acquainted with him.

I wonder if my comments and stories have been copied.

AA is a bad organization because the courts do mandate attendance and also the mental health field does also. I was forced into AA by a doctor.

As my friend Ray says AA is a religion and is okay if a person wants to join that religious cult, but it has grown because of court mandated attendance.

AA has harmed so many people we all have our own stories and therefore should not have to copy word for word others stories.

I have my own story but i just usually give my experience and let my friend Ray give the websites and factual studies and such, since HE has done THER RESEARCH these last five years.

Answer 3

I've dated a few alcoholics. One of them quit through AA. Here's my impression of the program: 1) It has a very low success rate. 2) It is much like a religion. Everyone who is a member of AA thinks they are better than everyone who isn't. When I was dating the guy in AA, he would berate me every time I went out with my friends and had a drink, even though he knew I wasn't an alcoholic. I would get a lecture every time I had a beer. I definetly got the "Holier then thou" vibe from all the AA people I ever met. Plus, since he was in AA we could never go to partiestogether where there was alcohol. I had to go to an AA party on New Year's Eve.

Answer 4

Regarding "The other Women" my first NYC Sponsor came in to AA in 1956 and got to know Bill well, so in the early 1960s my Sponsor J., an ex H.S. Football Captain, sort of acted as an unoffical bodyguard, whenever the annual Bill W. Dinner (Now the Bill W. Memorial Dinner) to honor the co founder was held at the NY Sheraton Hotel, before the dinner many AA members from out of town especially would come up to Bill's Room (Lois was usually enroute from their Bedford Hills suburban home at this time) seeking his autograph on their BB's or 12 and 12's, J. would shoo them away.."Bill is sleeping now"..of course J. told me he always had a woman in there with him, as Bill W. as the co founder was kind of like a rock star of today, attracted women like flies to honey. Once a meeting J. let it slip..Bill "had quite an eye for the ladies" etc. I remember J. getting some vicious feedback that night. In 1985-87 when I lived in Mexico City, the Mexican GSO refused to pay for the translation into Spanish of Bill's Autobiography 'Pass it On' due to references of him taking LSD, etc. Bill is regarded as a Saint in the Mexican and Latin American Traditional Groups. Finally in the early 1990s the translation was reluctanly approved. Bill was far from a Saint, he was human as the rest of us Alcoholics with all our flaws, however in any type of religious or spiritually based movement, AA or Organized religion, followers tend to idolize and sanctify either the founder or preacher and are often blind to any kind of human behavior. I was a part time AA historian, knew the staff at GSO World Services and found a lot in the archives there myself. Nothing is perfect in this world..not even AA!! All my words and experiences. For more detail and their articles go to:
http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-otherwomen.html

Answer 5

Hey, me again I know exactly what you mean I had this same problem I am atheist and I had to go to NA (narcotics Anonymous) which is pretty much the same thing 12 step, higher power non-sense I remember someone told me and I quote" you do not have to have god as a higher power, it could be a tree or a rock" I thought WTF How is basing my recover on a tree gonna get me off drugs, How is a tree going to help Is this a joke. Just remember there are a lot of options and there has to be some kind of non-religious form of treatment. Maybe you could create one, it would probly be allot more successful then AA BS(just kidding I know AA has helped allot of people, just not people like me)

Answer 6

I have my own AA horror story. It is on Ken R's site morerevealed. 60-65 Somewhere inbetween there.
Damn near died or went mad. AA stole more sanity than it ever gave me.
EVERYONE SHOULD READ the orange papers and more revealed.

Answer 7

AA does more harm than good

Answer 8

If Irina is going to pretend to be Ray, then she should keep her story straight. She claims to have five years' sobriety in her answer (which she plagiarized from Ray's story), but in fact just one month ago she was treating her hangovers with seltzer water:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ao4B2EXukKIaGGyXTDYH0IXsy6IX?qid=20061029053717AAwnufW

She also likes to show off her boobs when she's drunk:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AqeDasUZjEQX0pM7h89wBFLsy6IX?qid=20061029051946AAmcujr

Answer 9

for what I do not know