Atheists, if you are educated than you know that human body is more complicated than anything else?

Question

than how is your mind perverted to think that it is a pure chance?
i mean : how is it conceivable that perfection creates itself?
have you ever look at peacock closely? so chance creates the perfect lining with perfect symmetric look ? this is a simple example in the vast of this world perfections. How come you are so misled to believe this is a pure chance?

Answer 1

My body is part of my soul. Without it, i wouldn't a brain to have feelings and reasoning.

I'm not an atheist though

Answer 2

If you think atheists generally think it happened by chance, then you don't know much about us and are misunderstanding something completely.

Most atheists believe in the evolution, which is quite different than "happened by chance". We believe that we evolved. Many tiny steps through natural selection over millions of years made us how we are today. After each little step we were a little bit more complicated and closer to perfection. Read about the evolution (from a scientific source, not a priest writing excerpts from it) to get a clue what it is that most of us believe.

Answer 3

Aside from the fact that I'm quite insulted that you're closed-minded enough to regard anyone who doesn't believe in the creation theory as having a 'mind perverted to think that it is a pure chance', I basically agree with Gillian. However, humans are far from perfection, and you only have to look at the development of other species to see that in even the last hundred years the theory of evolution and adaptation are clearly in evidence. The rise of Industry resulted in mutations and adaptations in moths and butterflies in order for them to exist in the more polluted, dirty atmospheres of the factory towns as opposed to the clearer and cleaner atmospheres of the countryside.

As for the symmetry, an educated person would know of the way in which lifeforms are created by the division of cells which would account for this. Ultimately, Atheism is believing that there are other ways of explaining things. I admit that believing in evolution is believing in a set of ideas created by man, but equally believing in God is also believing in a set of ideas created by man.

Answer 4

Is this actually a question? It certainly seems more like flame-bait to me but I'll attempt to answer for you anyway. Whether you bother to read and try to understand the response or just ignore it because it disagrees with what you've decided the truth is, I'll leave up to you.

There are certainly a lot of misconceptions and assumptions in this "question" so I'll address them first.

Let me start by saying that the human body is far from a perfect mechanism. Complex, yes. Ingenious, definitely. But perfect, no. It suffers shortfalls like disease and injury that a perfect mechanism would not. Surely if the human body were perfect, then we would never die, never suffer disease or injury, and be capable of doing anything. However there are plenty of things, both natural and manufactured, which are capable of exceeding the abilities of a human in various aspects.

Even the human mind, while unsurpassed in reasoning ability, suffers form mental illness and delusion. You yourself claim that any atheist must have had their mind perverted to believe in evolution. Assuming I agreed with this viewpoint, which I don't, would a perfect mind be acceptable to such perversion?

Secondly, your understanding of the mechanism of evolution seems a little skewed. Evolution is not simple chance, but rather a system of elimination by which negative traits are weaned out of the system leaving only positive ones. Certainly I agree that the likelihood of throwing a bunch of amino acids in a bucket and having a peacock emerge is absurd, but that doesn't even come close to representing the reality of how evolution works.

One more thing I want to address before I go onto my answer is your assertion that complexity somehow necessitates a creator. There are many many complex things in nature and we already know how many of them are formed by mundane, natural processes. Just because living things are complex, doesn't mean that a God is necessary for them to have arisen.

So now let me answer your question which, once we take out the fluff, boils down to "how can an intelligent person believe in evolution over creation?"

I believe in evolution because, to date, it is the only theory which has been devised which comes close to describing a mechanism for the emergence of different species from a common ancestor which can been seen to occur in the short term.

There are examples of natural selection which have happened and been recorded within the last 100 years. Now I can agree that there are many unanswered questions. But that doesn't invalidate the theory. It just means we don't know all the answers. Every day we answer more questions about many different theories in science. In time, we'll continue to answer questions about evolution, and creationists will continue the cling to the ever-decreasing unanswered ones like a deflating life raft.

A common argument leveled against Darwin's theory is that it can only explain small differences in a single species, not different species. This claim is misleading. While no living examples of new species have been found, there are many ways that evolution could account for different species. Certainly, without a living example, it can only be theorised, however this practice is at the core of science. Relativity is "only" a theory but without it, we wouldn't have working GPS systems.

I believe that evolution is certainly more likely than the idea that an all-seeing, all-knowing being who lives outside the laws of our universe snapped their fingers and made all the animals appear. You could argue that the evidence for evolution isn't strong enough for you but there is literally zero evidence that a God exists, and yet you seem comfortable with that theory. Ask yourself why would someone try so hard to find scientific reasons and technicalities that would suggest that evolution might be wrong, but then not apply the same rigorous constraints to their own belief in creation?

I believe that Evolution, despite the handful of unanswered questions, is the best theory for the emergence of natural diversity because, of all the theories which exist, it is the one which is best supported by the evidence we see around us. I choose not to believe that a god created life because there is no evidence anywhere to support that theory. You may believe differently and that's your business, but don't pretend that believers in evolution are somehow deluded. There is no more evidence to support the existence of a God than there is to support the existence of Zeus, Santa Clause or Flying Spaghetti Monsters.

If you're genuinely interested in understanding what others think and the actual details of evolution, have a look at my source links below and have a read of Richard Dawkins fantastic book "The Blind Watchmaker". Otherwise, continue to pose rhetorical questions about subjects you clearly don't understand.

I hope that answers your question.

Answer 5

I'm not an Atheist, but those things are not pure chance, every living thing on this earth has developed, improved over hundreds of thousands and in many cases millions of years. That is not pure chance, and nothing in this world is perfect, that's why every living thing continues to evolve.

Answer 6

Atheistic worldviews do not claim the body arose by chance. That is pure Creationist rhetoric.

The elements of traits develop by mutation, which is chance. However mutation merely provides a population with variation in trait.

It is Natural Selection that leads to a predominance of traits with high fitness. Our "human body" was "built" by Natural Selection with "materials" from Mutation.

...Plus some Epigenetics floating around in there.

EDIT: Nina: Less armchair psychanalyzing, mmkay? You make a lot of assumptions about Atheists in what you claim, with no evidence. I could simply assume that your assumptions stem from a latent ignorance that comes from being Theist, or perhaps that your emotional attachment to deities is so neurotic that you have to make up explanations as to why others don't accept your gods. That however would be the same baseless assumptions made from refusing to look beyond my own worldivew to understand.

Answer 7

Who exactly said the human body is the most complex? I've heard people make similar statements about the human eye, when it is infact nowhere near the most complex out of all the animals.

And no non of the above happened by chance, it has taken years, millions of years for nature to create what it has!

Answer 8

A rocket is designed by a person. A washing machine is designed by a person. There is a paper trail to follow that leads to the designer. The human heart has no paper trail to follow. Therefore, how does anyone truly know if there is a designer or if it is all just a freak accident? We don't. We just hope for a designer.

Answer 9

Gee, always fun to come across the word perverted in a "question" Why ask if you don't care to actually hear an opposing viewpoint?

By the way, I am not an atheist myself, haven't made up my mind, but as a non atheist yourself, can you not appreciate that the minds of others can work in ways that you cannot comprehend or agree with...can you not respect their points of view? Isn't that a miracle of creation - independent thought?

Blah blah blah blah.

Answer 10

"...than how is your mind perverted..."

Perverted? Something tells me you're not really looking for thoughtful responses so much as taking the opportunity to rant about your own beliefs. Try using less value-laden language. (Also, as an FYI, "than" is used to compare two attributes. The word you were looking for is "then.")

For the record though, I don't believe complexity is really an argument for creation. Why wouldn't evolution explain complexity? There is nothing in evolutionary theory that prohibits complexity.

You look at the world with your faith in your heart and see complexity as proof of a higher power, and I look at the world with doubt in my heart and see complexity as nothing more than how things worked out.

Answer 11

I am educated enough to know that it did *not* happen by pure chance. Peacocks did not just appear one morning.

It takes thousands of years of evolution to create such perfection.

My mind is not "perverted", thank you very much.

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