can we afford to live without immigrants?

Question

I think that if we send all the immigrants back then they'll be enough jobs for those on benifits etc.
But I was told that we have to welcome immigrants to our country otherwise if its just us, we wont produce enough money to support our pensions when we're retired through taxation.
What do you think?

Answer 1

Whoever told you that wants a slap. Not only would more jobs be available, but the government would be spending alot less of our taxes is housing them and giving them their benefits.

Answer 2

Life would be a lot more affordable without immigrants.

There would be enough affordable housing for families (Council houses at £60 per week rather than private rent at £600 per month), more jobs, less stress on the NHS, less crime.

People would have a better standard of life and more money and that would probably encourage people to have more kids because they feel they could afford them and provide for them properly. Money is one of the main reasons people are putting off having kids.

I am sick to death of the pathetic "reasons" why we "need" to be providing jobs and homes for half of Poland while our own people are going without.

The only people who go on and on abouit what "fantastic hard working people " immigrants are are the comfortably off who have no money worries and have not seen first hand the effect large scale immigration is having on the poor of this country. And the greedy bosses who benefit from cheap labour.

Answer 3

Immigrants are very important for the economy, and without them we would not be in such a strong position, they generally hard working highly educated and fanstic people. And we can freely move around and live any where and work, so why are we so mean to others comin to our country,,,there are too many people here who don't want to work and people go on about the immigrants taking our jobs, if there our jobs then why are they still available,,,and immigrants are getting them, cause everyone else here are a bunch of lazy b*stards.

Answer 4

Of course we can. Jobs don't just suddenly materialise because you let immigrants in. Why aren't they needed in their own countries? We have 3.5million people on benefits who should be on the unemployment register; even the government admits this. Add to this the huge number of students in universities who shouldn't be there, plus the massive over-manning in the public sector as well as those on the unemployment register. It also puts a huge burden on the public services and causes all sorts of social problems. We will never get people off benefits if you bring in foreigners to do the work. It also drives down wage rates and they won't be prepared to do menial work forever.

Because we have signed up to the EU, we can't stop these immigrants coming in, anyway, left wing governments aren't patriotic. Britain has no borders as far as they are concerned.

The pension problem has got nothing to do with immigration. The government should have set up a fund from contributions made in earlier years instead of spending it as they got it.

Answer 5

Even in times of reduced immigration, the United States has not had full employment.

There are various reasons offered for this. Conservatives say that Democrats create a welfare state atmosphere with handouts that makes a certain percentage of the population dependent on a system that pays you not to work. Liberals say the capitalist system depends for it's smooth functioning on a slice of the populace being unemployed; ergo communism, or something close to it, is the answer if you want a system with 100% employment.

Whichever side you side with, remember: There has always been unemployment in the United States. Always. The recent influx of illegals from south of the US/Mexican border is a handy excuse as to why there is unemployment among citizenry here. --Nothing more.

Answer 6

The only economic benefits are from legal immigrants, as a class. As a class, illegal immigrants are the ones who are unskilled and uneducated and use more in education funds and other services than they will ever pay in taxes. The legalization question on that front is that, when they are a net economic loss, if they are legalized they will be able to bring in more unskilled and uneducated family, including indigent parents who will take more services, again never making enough to pay enough in taxes to cover their services. People use smoke and mirrors on this. Look at the study and see if it is saying we need 'immigrants' or 'illegal immigrants.' Our legal immigrants are screened specifically to not be those who drain our services and to not be those who commit crimes.

The 4% of the population that are illegal immigrants make up roughly 30% of the convicted criminals in our prisons. That is much higher than the native criminal componant, proportionately. However, our LEGAL immigrants make up a disproportionately SMALL percentage of criminals in our prisons.

That is because those who go through our legal process are those who we believe will be a net benefit to our country. Those who come in illegally are typically those we would not let in legally, at least without a huge wait.

We limit immigration of poor people who cannot pay enough taxes to cover school costs for their children, for a reason. Their better life is at our expense.

Answer 7

What if all countries sent all there immigrants back,? think of all the Brits coming back from all over the World. What chance of there being enough jobs then.

Answer 8

Once upon a time we had to work a certain length of time before we were entitled to benefit's, so I believe if we stopped paying the immigrants social benefit's and giving them houses then they would not find our dear country quite so appealing. They should have to support themselves before they are allowed here.

Answer 9

A lot of the people on benefits are scrounging lazy bastards and wouldnt do the jobs the immigrants do.. Many immigrants do long hours and are exploited and paid peanuts. Id rather have a hard working immigrant here who contributes towards the country than a ponce.

Answer 10

hmmmm that's something to think about.
I believe that we would need more workers to afford those retired baby boomers in 20 years(like Mom & Dad). And if we send them back, There would be more jobs available for those on benefits. I thought maybe if there's a 3rd baby boom from my generation to where we have more kids so they can be the working age, we won't have issues with enough workers. So Mom & Dad can retire without money worries as their grandkids work.